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Meeting backs bid for 20mph limit

6:27pm Friday 5th September 2008

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Plans to introduce a 20mph speed limit on almost all of Oxford's roads were met with enthusiasm at the first public meeting held to discuss the topic.

Cowley residents packed out the John Bunyan Baptist Church, in Crowell Road, to have their say about the scheme - and to hear Oxfordshire County Council transport cabinet member Ian Hudspeth.

Among those making their voices heard was Martin Cattermole, from Church Hill Road, who spoke about the impact of speeding vehicles on his family's life.

Mr Cattermole, who has three children aged eight, 10 and 12, said: "I am not sure the proposals go far enough.

"My children are just the age where they are most likely to be hit by a speeding car.

"They cannot actually walk to school, they cannot walk to the park, they cannot even cross the road safely."

Mr Cattermole said three months ago his son, Adam, then 11, was hit by a car in Church Hill Road. Fortunately he was not injured.

He said: "I saw him flying through the air. We reported it to the police but because he was not injured there was no accident report. Lots of accidents happen without being in the statistics."

A so-called 'walking bus' had been planned for his children's school - but the idea had to be cancelled because the route was deemed unsafe even with a group of children led and supervised by adults.

Mr Cattermole added: "The proposal is great as far as it goes but some of the roads we are most concerned about are excluded.

"But it is the right thing to do and it is about time."

Anna Greenwood, of Beauchamp Lane, also backed the proposals. She said: "I hear some of the cars coming down the road and my immediate reaction is they must be going at 60mph - they are probably not, but they're probably going at 45mph.

"I am a little concerned that the mentality of these drivers, who already know there is a 30mph limit, but choose to ignore it, will ignore the 20mph limit too.

"I don't see how you can change the attitudes of the drivers by putting 20mph signs up.

"It is a great step in the right direction but I don't know if it is going to work."

Mr Hudspeth said: "We want to make sure everyone gets a good opportunity to air their views."

The next meetings are at: Tuesday: St Matthew's Parish Centre, Marlborough Road, South Oxford, 5.30pm Tuesday, Sept 16: St Andrew's Primary School, London Road, Headington, 6pm Wednesday, Sept 17: Larkrise Primary School, Boundary Brook Road, off Iffley Road, 6.30pm Thursday, Oct 2: North Oxford Community Association Centre, Diamond Place, Summertown, 5pm Wednesday, Oct 8: County Hall, New Road, 6.30pm Monday, Oct 13 - Blackbird Leys Community Centre, Blackbird Leys Road, 6pm Views can also be emailed to 20@oxfordshire.gov.uk, or posted free to Oxfordshire County Council, 20 Limit Consultation, Speedwell House, Speedwell Street, Freepost OF260 Oxford OX1 1BR.


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Gumbo, says...
6:39pm Fri 5 Sep 08

"They cannot actually walk to school, they cannot walk to the park, they cannot even cross the road safely."


What a society of victims we have become.

DanOxford, says...
6:55pm Fri 5 Sep 08


Mr Cattermole said three months ago his son, Adam, then 11, was hit by a car in Church Hill Road. Fortunately he was not injured.

He was in the ROAD - it was his fault.

Decades of creeping 'progressive' 'non- judgementalism' backed up by the last ten years of a government that has adopted Political Correctness as policy and the basis for legislation has resulted in the near complete break down of personal responsibility and a massive increase in 'victim culture'.

The World is increasingly divided into 'Victims' (ethnic minorities, women, Muslims, gays, the disabled, cyclists, pedestrians etc etc etc) and 'oppressors' (working age men, car drivers) which, bizarrely, has seen a situation where 73% of the population now claim to be ‘victimised’. (www.civitas.org.uk)


People step in to the road, cyclists swerve in front of cars, women get absolutely blind drunk and assaulted and guess what? THEY HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONSEQUENCES!!!
No- what has to happen, is that the MAJORITY of responsible, law abiding people have to be persecuted, taxed more or inconvenienced.

This is usually achieved by single issue pressure groups, from a mother who wanted to ban pens with lids because her son choked to death after being told REPEATEDLY not to chew on one, to ‘Environmentalists’ who want ‘saving the planet’ to be a legal defence for criminal acts.

This scheme will cost Oxford tax payers £300,000, will increase signage clutter (which has been proven to distract drivers leading to MORE accidents) and is unenforceable by the Police’s own admission.

Oxford is a busy city with 40,000 commuters travelling in every day. If we want to reduce car numbers and journey distances, block mass immigration and student number increases- both of which mean more people overall and more workers driving in from commuter estates every day. Too politically sensitive and may cause ‘offence’ to some group or other? Move to the countryside and protect your kids from traffic that way.

Spend far less money on running effective pedestrian safety and cycling proficiency courses and put the rest down to Darwinism- legislating for a minority of people who do not have a strong enough sense of personal or familial self- preservation to keep out of the road (when it is already an offence to step into the path of a moving vehicle) is just pandering to the whims of a few and nannying the rest.




DanOxford, says...
7:50pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Anna Greenwood, of Beauchamp Lane, also backed the proposals. She said: "I hear some of the cars coming down the road and my immediate reaction is they must be going at 60mph - they are probably not, but they're probably going at 45mph.


Highly scientific this- I'm amazed that someone can 'hear' speed, although she does go on to say that her 'immeidiate reaction (based on what?!!)of a 60mph speed is dropped 25% to a more reasonable 45mph!

A car has just driven past my window and my immediate reaction is that it was 'probably' a blue one, it's 'probably' not, but it is probably' a red one!

When you add in the opinion expressed by another 'campaigner' a few months ago on this issue that the problem of a tiny minority of drivers on the (30mph limit) Iffley Road breaking the law and completely ignoring the speed limit by driving at 45mph (at least this gentleman had to actually SEE the vehicle in question to accurately gauge it's speed using only his human senses!) would be solved by implementing a (legally unenforceable) lower limit, you see the sort of logic involved with these people.

Bonkers!



Ed, Oxford says...
8:50pm Fri 5 Sep 08

My average speed in Oxford is 24.6mph, according to my car's computer. I guess that a 20 limit will bring that down to about 15mph.

We will need a man with a flag soon!

maureen, usa says...
9:53pm Fri 5 Sep 08

How about putting speed bumps on the roads, that would keep the speed down.

DanOxford, says...
10:00pm Fri 5 Sep 08

maureen wrote:
How about putting speed bumps on the roads, that would keep the speed down.
We have a pedestrianised city centre; speed bumps; chicanes; one way systems; cameras to prevent you using certain routes or bus lanes; streets so tight and short (Greater Leys) that you can only travel at 5mph and have to keep stopping and starting because it's impossible for two cars to turn a corner at the same time, and a small but vocal group of militant cyclists and anti- car Nazis AND YET some 'gas guzzlers' and 'rat runners' and 'environmental terrorists' STILL persist in trying to live, work, shop and spend money in Oxford, so the fight against the freedom of personal transport goes on...

katrina, witney says...
10:11pm Fri 5 Sep 08

how about putting mr cattermole under observation for a day, just to see what his actule speeds are, in and around oxford. im sure, just like the police they would wander over the currant 30mph limit. FACT and with some of the local goverment figures trying to bring in this utter noncence policy.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
SO STOP BEING SO TWO FACED.and Start teaching your kids proper road sense.

adam, melbourne says...
5:39am Sat 6 Sep 08

Ha! Ha! i moved to australia in 2003 i now own a 7litre V8 with a straight trhough exhaust and a horn that plays Dixie!!!! up yours you car hating cycling nimbys!!!!!

Niko Bellic, Liberty City says...
9:48am Sat 6 Sep 08

According to the advert hitting a kid at 30mph has a 20% chance of killing them. 30 is of course the current limit. To send a child "flying through the air" as stated by Mr Cattermole, would surely need a little more speed than that.

So, as once again stated in our public service ads, there is an 80% chance of death resulting in a 40mph collision.

To suffer NO injuries would imply to me that Mr Cattermole is talking out of his arse and is just looking for an excuse to cover the fact that he managed to allow his 11 to get hit by a car, either through negligence or poor fatherly tuition.

The police would have responded to an accident that sends a child "flying", this story is rollocks through and through

Tom, says...
2:37pm Sat 6 Sep 08

"They cannot actually walk to school, they cannot walk to the park, they cannot even cross the road safely."


Are they retarded or something?.

Maybe using your energy to teach them to have a brain for themselves instead of trying to blame the motorist(which i guess is less effort).

Is it any wonder this great city is struggling when you have people like this family in it?.


Gumbo, says...
9:01pm Sun 7 Sep 08

Tom wrote:
"They cannot actually walk to school, they cannot walk to the park, they cannot even cross the road safely." Are they retarded or something?. Maybe using your energy to teach them to have a brain for themselves instead of trying to blame the motorist(which i guess is less effort). Is it any wonder this great city is struggling when you have people like this family in it?.
Touché. A complete abdication of parental responsibility.

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