Concerns over impact of parking zone limits

thisisoxfordshire: Brothers Sam, left, and Mike Diliberto are worried about the impact on their business, Giovanni’s Barber Shop in Magdalen Road Brothers Sam, left, and Mike Diliberto are worried about the impact on their business, Giovanni’s Barber Shop in Magdalen Road

TRADERS and residents said last night they were bracing themselves for the impact of controversial new parking restrictions to be put in place in a matter of days.

The controversial controlled parking zones (CPZs) for East Oxford were approved by Oxfordshire County Council earlier this year and residents across the area were intensely divided by the issue.

A CPZ is an area where the vast majority of spaces are for residents and their visitors, using permits they purchase from the council, with a small number of spaces for short-term parking.

Parking restrictions in East Oxford were originally proposed in 2007, but were delayed by cuts and consultations. In January three of them were eventually proposed – Divinity Road, Magdalen Road (North) and Magdalen Road (South).

Eventually plans for the CPZ in streets south of and including Magdalen Road were put on hold in March after uproar from residents. But the other two are now going ahead.

Consultations showed residents in the Divinity Road and Magdalen Road (North) areas were in favour of the parking restrictions but those living in the Magdalen Road (South) area objected.

From Monday, October 15, the CPZ will come into force in the Divinity Road area.

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And from Monday, October 29, the CPZ in roads north of Magdalen Road will be enforced by traffic wardens.

Iffley Fields resident Amar Latif campaigned against the CPZs. He said: “The feeling is that we should be entitled to a scheme which works for local residents but the council is adamant in pushing through these CPZs.”

County council officers pressed for the third CPZ because they were concerned about the effects of cars displaced by the zones which are now due to be enforced.

Now county council officers will be carrying out surveys to find out how many long stay, non-resident cars are parked in the area and will be comparing these numbers with previous surveys.

When asked what amount of increased parking would have to be seen in the area in order for the county council to go ahead with the third CPZ, spokesman Owen Morton said: “Judgements will be made in due course based on events and evidence, including feedback from residents and businesses.”

Sam Diliberto, of Giovanni’s Barber Shop in Magdalen Road, was against the CPZ because he was worried his clients wouldn’t be able to park.

His business is in the Magdalen Road (South) area so no parking restrictions will be enforced yet.

He said: “I don’t think it is necessary in any shape or form. It will make things difficult for our clients and if they find it hard to park I am sure some of them will go elsewhere.”

The county council’s deputy leader Rodney Rose said: “I look forward to the parking zones helping to address the transport problems associated with new development and a much improved parking situation for residents.”

Permits cost £50 each a year and each property will be entitled to two. They will also get 50 one-day visitor permits, 25 of them free.

For details, call 0845 634 4466 or email parking.shop@oxfordshire.gov.uk

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12:50pm Fri 5 Oct 12

Geoff Roberts says...

"Sam Diliberto, of Giovanni’s Barber Shop in Magdalen Road, was against the CPZ because he was worried his clients wouldn’t be able to park."

As much as I'd like to support small businesses I think there are too many people clogging up the roads, burning precious resources and inflicting pollution, noise and risk on communities as a result of travelling out of their own communities. Surely local businesses should be for local people (we'll have no trouble here)? In which case, why would a little shop like Giovanni's need any parking? Surely his customers are coming in on foot or using bicycles!

Of course, in other areas people will have no choice, especially when your local council bulldozes your local community facilities forcing people to travel out of the local community putting pressure on other communities.
"Sam Diliberto, of Giovanni’s Barber Shop in Magdalen Road, was against the CPZ because he was worried his clients wouldn’t be able to park." As much as I'd like to support small businesses I think there are too many people clogging up the roads, burning precious resources and inflicting pollution, noise and risk on communities as a result of travelling out of their own communities. Surely local businesses should be for local people (we'll have no trouble here)? In which case, why would a little shop like Giovanni's need any parking? Surely his customers are coming in on foot or using bicycles! Of course, in other areas people will have no choice, especially when your local council bulldozes your local community facilities forcing people to travel out of the local community putting pressure on other communities. Geoff Roberts

1:40pm Fri 5 Oct 12

sparky123456 says...

i wonder how well the CPZ's will be enforced when people are attending the Mosque on Stnaley Rd or the 7 day adventist church on Chester St. At certain times of the day cars have little regard for even national highway code and treat the pavement, peoples driveways and double yellow lines as their own parking bays. Wonder if anyone will have the guts to start fining them.
i wonder how well the CPZ's will be enforced when people are attending the Mosque on Stnaley Rd or the 7 day adventist church on Chester St. At certain times of the day cars have little regard for even national highway code and treat the pavement, peoples driveways and double yellow lines as their own parking bays. Wonder if anyone will have the guts to start fining them. sparky123456

1:49pm Fri 5 Oct 12

Bartsimpson_uk says...

We already know the answer to your question sparky, it will not be enforced to cars and people attending the mosque, a blind eye will be turned as it is in Tyndale Road now. They park where they want now and know they are not going to get a ticket, but try and park in St Giles and attend church on a Sunday and see what happens.
We already know the answer to your question sparky, it will not be enforced to cars and people attending the mosque, a blind eye will be turned as it is in Tyndale Road now. They park where they want now and know they are not going to get a ticket, but try and park in St Giles and attend church on a Sunday and see what happens. Bartsimpson_uk

7:36pm Fri 5 Oct 12

Andrew:Oxford says...

£50 a year is very cheap, less than £1 per week or about 2/3rds of a tank of petrol.

Now that so many residents have demanded CPZs and streets are still full of cars - it must be time to start ramping up fees in order that the ratio of spaces versus demand reaches parity.

The average cost of insuring a car is now just under £900 - would it be that unreasonable for an annual permit to block a lane of a residential road to cost a similar amount?

The income would benefit everyone in the city.
£50 a year is very cheap, less than £1 per week or about 2/3rds of a tank of petrol. Now that so many residents have demanded CPZs and streets are still full of cars - it must be time to start ramping up fees in order that the ratio of spaces versus demand reaches parity. The average cost of insuring a car is now just under £900 - would it be that unreasonable for an annual permit to block a lane of a residential road to cost a similar amount? The income would benefit everyone in the city. Andrew:Oxford

10:26pm Fri 5 Oct 12

Myron Blatz says...

Many motorists think they have a 'right' to park outside their home - with or without Parking Zones - but this is not correct. Even where Parking Zones are in-force, Permits don't 'guarantee' a Resident an actual parking space, but only the right to park if there is a free space relating to that particular Permit Zone. The problem for local shops and traders is that their customers need short-term local parking - which is the issue the Council seems either 'blind' about, or simply doesn't want to address the issue. Many of Oxford's streets - including Magdalen Road in East Oxford - were never designed and built to cope with on-street parking needs, let alone those of the 21st century. The massive increase in on-street and pavement parking in recent years, fuelled by more cars, HMOs and Student flats, has become a political 'hot potato' which councillors seem unable or unwilling to resolve - and where some Councillors want even more student Accommodation at the expense of parking and whatever social balance within established communities still remains, then the future looks bleak. By the way, anyone know why some people say 'Magdalen' whilst others think it should be 'Maudlen' .......?
Many motorists think they have a 'right' to park outside their home - with or without Parking Zones - but this is not correct. Even where Parking Zones are in-force, Permits don't 'guarantee' a Resident an actual parking space, but only the right to park if there is a free space relating to that particular Permit Zone. The problem for local shops and traders is that their customers need short-term local parking - which is the issue the Council seems either 'blind' about, or simply doesn't want to address the issue. Many of Oxford's streets - including Magdalen Road in East Oxford - were never designed and built to cope with on-street parking needs, let alone those of the 21st century. The massive increase in on-street and pavement parking in recent years, fuelled by more cars, HMOs and Student flats, has become a political 'hot potato' which councillors seem unable or unwilling to resolve - and where some Councillors want even more student Accommodation at the expense of parking and whatever social balance within established communities still remains, then the future looks bleak. By the way, anyone know why some people say 'Magdalen' whilst others think it should be 'Maudlen' .......? Myron Blatz

10:04am Mon 8 Oct 12

NinjaBiscuits says...

Funnily enough Oxford, synonymous with Oxford University, is a student city. Expect students. Also, if you are lucky enough to be living within walking distance of a major UK city, expect cars. I just don't get why people who live around Magdalen North etc are so up in arms about the number of cars. You live in a city center for crying outloud, there will be a hell of a lot more cars than in the countryside. Go and live there if you hate cars so much. Also, HMOs are not the only "problem" (and FYI they are exactly who you need in a city, as they are the ones working and paying taxes, funnily enough they don't CHOOSE to live in an HMO, they are forced by prices; I hate living with strangers in my 20s!), families with children have just as many cars.
Funnily enough Oxford, synonymous with Oxford University, is a student city. Expect students. Also, if you are lucky enough to be living within walking distance of a major UK city, expect cars. I just don't get why people who live around Magdalen North etc are so up in arms about the number of cars. You live in a city center for crying outloud, there will be a hell of a lot more cars than in the countryside. Go and live there if you hate cars so much. Also, HMOs are not the only "problem" (and FYI they are exactly who you need in a city, as they are the ones working and paying taxes, funnily enough they don't CHOOSE to live in an HMO, they are forced by prices; I hate living with strangers in my 20s!), families with children have just as many cars. NinjaBiscuits

4:49pm Mon 8 Oct 12

paul from Kennington says...

Geoff Roberts wrote:
"Sam Diliberto, of Giovanni’s Barber Shop in Magdalen Road, was against the CPZ because he was worried his clients wouldn’t be able to park."

As much as I'd like to support small businesses I think there are too many people clogging up the roads, burning precious resources and inflicting pollution, noise and risk on communities as a result of travelling out of their own communities. Surely local businesses should be for local people (we'll have no trouble here)? In which case, why would a little shop like Giovanni's need any parking? Surely his customers are coming in on foot or using bicycles!

Of course, in other areas people will have no choice, especially when your local council bulldozes your local community facilities forcing people to travel out of the local community putting pressure on other communities.
So jeff when your local Barbers has been "bulldozed" as you put it, how do you get to Giovanni's?. There is also not enough local business, so to survive he has to attract outside custom, and what "risk on communities" does his customers threaten. If you have a gripe with Giovanni's just say so, don't dress it up as a comment. This is a very friendly and well run business.
[quote][p][bold]Geoff Roberts[/bold] wrote: "Sam Diliberto, of Giovanni’s Barber Shop in Magdalen Road, was against the CPZ because he was worried his clients wouldn’t be able to park." As much as I'd like to support small businesses I think there are too many people clogging up the roads, burning precious resources and inflicting pollution, noise and risk on communities as a result of travelling out of their own communities. Surely local businesses should be for local people (we'll have no trouble here)? In which case, why would a little shop like Giovanni's need any parking? Surely his customers are coming in on foot or using bicycles! Of course, in other areas people will have no choice, especially when your local council bulldozes your local community facilities forcing people to travel out of the local community putting pressure on other communities.[/p][/quote]So jeff when your local Barbers has been "bulldozed" as you put it, how do you get to Giovanni's?. There is also not enough local business, so to survive he has to attract outside custom, and what "risk on communities" does his customers threaten. If you have a gripe with Giovanni's just say so, don't dress it up as a comment. This is a very friendly and well run business. paul from Kennington

3:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12

paul from Kennington says...

Myron Blatz wrote:
Many motorists think they have a 'right' to park outside their home - with or without Parking Zones - but this is not correct. Even where Parking Zones are in-force, Permits don't 'guarantee' a Resident an actual parking space, but only the right to park if there is a free space relating to that particular Permit Zone. The problem for local shops and traders is that their customers need short-term local parking - which is the issue the Council seems either 'blind' about, or simply doesn't want to address the issue. Many of Oxford's streets - including Magdalen Road in East Oxford - were never designed and built to cope with on-street parking needs, let alone those of the 21st century. The massive increase in on-street and pavement parking in recent years, fuelled by more cars, HMOs and Student flats, has become a political 'hot potato' which councillors seem unable or unwilling to resolve - and where some Councillors want even more student Accommodation at the expense of parking and whatever social balance within established communities still remains, then the future looks bleak. By the way, anyone know why some people say 'Magdalen' whilst others think it should be 'Maudlen' .......?
I am led to believe anything to do with The Uni is pronounced Maudlin (supposedly the look on Mary's face) whilst it is Magdalen if associated with the City.
[quote][p][bold]Myron Blatz[/bold] wrote: Many motorists think they have a 'right' to park outside their home - with or without Parking Zones - but this is not correct. Even where Parking Zones are in-force, Permits don't 'guarantee' a Resident an actual parking space, but only the right to park if there is a free space relating to that particular Permit Zone. The problem for local shops and traders is that their customers need short-term local parking - which is the issue the Council seems either 'blind' about, or simply doesn't want to address the issue. Many of Oxford's streets - including Magdalen Road in East Oxford - were never designed and built to cope with on-street parking needs, let alone those of the 21st century. The massive increase in on-street and pavement parking in recent years, fuelled by more cars, HMOs and Student flats, has become a political 'hot potato' which councillors seem unable or unwilling to resolve - and where some Councillors want even more student Accommodation at the expense of parking and whatever social balance within established communities still remains, then the future looks bleak. By the way, anyone know why some people say 'Magdalen' whilst others think it should be 'Maudlen' .......?[/p][/quote]I am led to believe anything to do with The Uni is pronounced Maudlin (supposedly the look on Mary's face) whilst it is Magdalen if associated with the City. paul from Kennington

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