It’s viable but no cash for B4044 Eynsham Road cycle path

thisisoxfordshire: Members of the Bike Safe, including Ian Leggett, third from right, wait to join the traffic on the busy B4044 between Botley and Eynsham Members of the Bike Safe, including Ian Leggett, third from right, wait to join the traffic on the busy B4044 between Botley and Eynsham

THE campaign for a cycle path along one of Oxfordshire’s busiest roads is being stepped up, after a study showed the idea was viable.

Cyclists and pedestrians say the B4044 between Dean Court, Farmoor and Eynsham is winding, unlit and too narrow to allow a vehicle to overtake a bike against traffic .

Now a study from cycle lobby group Sustrans shows building a new ‘community path’ would solve the problem, but it would cost £800,000.

While the scheme is feasible Oxfordshire County Council spokesman Martin Crabtree warned there is no money in the pot to pay for it.

He said: “A lot of work has gone into pursuing ideas and we know there is enthusiasm for them locally. However there is very little funding so there is no possibility of the county council fully or even part-funding this scheme in the foreseeable future.”

Ian Leggett, from community group Bike Safe, which commissioned the study, said: “We looked at different options but the only real option for a variety of reasons was to create a dedicated off-road route.

“Anything else would be too dangerous because the road is simply too narrow.

“But hopefully this would be supported by motorists as it will ease traffic and cyclists could cycle without having a bus six inches off their back wheel.”

The study was funded by £6,250 won by the group in a national Natwest Community Force competition last year, when it collected a high number of public votes. It showed the path would be cost-effective on one side of the road rather than two and could be built in phases.

The two phases – from Eynsham to Farmoor and then from Farmoor to Botley the following year – would cost £400,000 each. Previous estimates put the cost at between £1m and £2m.

Mr Leggett said: “This would be an investment which would pay for itself in seven or eight years.

“This would make an incredible difference. If you live in Farmoor, you cannot walk anywhere because there are no pavements.

“You can’t walk even to the shops and you are isolated. It is a crazy situation.”

The findings of the study will be presented in a meeting at 7.30pm tonight at Farmoor Village Hall. The public are welcome.

Mr Leggett said: “We continue to need community support. The major thing we face is the council says it a good scheme but is not committed to delivering it.

“This will never happen without the community.”

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8:07pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

"Cyclists and pedestrians say the B4044 between Dean Court, Farmoor and Eynsham is winding, unlit and too narrow to allow a vehicle to overtake a bike against traffic"..........
..........why's that a problem, it just means the traffic has to stay behind the cyclist until there's a gap, it's not rocket science.
"Cyclists and pedestrians say the B4044 between Dean Court, Farmoor and Eynsham is winding, unlit and too narrow to allow a vehicle to overtake a bike against traffic".......... ..........why's that a problem, it just means the traffic has to stay behind the cyclist until there's a gap, it's not rocket science. Dilligaf2010
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8:43pm Fri 20 Jul 12

the wizard says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
"Cyclists and pedestrians say the B4044 between Dean Court, Farmoor and Eynsham is winding, unlit and too narrow to allow a vehicle to overtake a bike against traffic"..........
..........why's that a problem, it just means the traffic has to stay behind the cyclist until there's a gap, it's not rocket science.
Not rocket science to read that line again,

"winding, unlit and too narrow"

On a winters day with rain and poor visibility, an unlit cyclist without a vest can be hard to see given the back drop of hedges etc.

The fear here is that before very long a fatality may occur, heaven forbid.
The recent re surfacing has helped cyclists keep in the the curb better but with the usage along this stretch an accident is inevitable given the present circumstances. Your analogy is somewhat misplaced
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: "Cyclists and pedestrians say the B4044 between Dean Court, Farmoor and Eynsham is winding, unlit and too narrow to allow a vehicle to overtake a bike against traffic".......... ..........why's that a problem, it just means the traffic has to stay behind the cyclist until there's a gap, it's not rocket science.[/p][/quote]Not rocket science to read that line again, "winding, unlit and too narrow" On a winters day with rain and poor visibility, an unlit cyclist without a vest can be hard to see given the back drop of hedges etc. The fear here is that before very long a fatality may occur, heaven forbid. The recent re surfacing has helped cyclists keep in the the curb better but with the usage along this stretch an accident is inevitable given the present circumstances. Your analogy is somewhat misplaced the wizard
  • Score: -1

11:19pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

the wizard wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
"Cyclists and pedestrians say the B4044 between Dean Court, Farmoor and Eynsham is winding, unlit and too narrow to allow a vehicle to overtake a bike against traffic"..........
..........why's that a problem, it just means the traffic has to stay behind the cyclist until there's a gap, it's not rocket science.
Not rocket science to read that line again,

"winding, unlit and too narrow"

On a winters day with rain and poor visibility, an unlit cyclist without a vest can be hard to see given the back drop of hedges etc.

The fear here is that before very long a fatality may occur, heaven forbid.
The recent re surfacing has helped cyclists keep in the the curb better but with the usage along this stretch an accident is inevitable given the present circumstances. Your analogy is somewhat misplaced
"On a winters day with rain and poor visibility, an unlit cyclist without a vest can be hard to see"..........
........Simple solution, cyclists should use lights, and wear suitable clothing.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: "Cyclists and pedestrians say the B4044 between Dean Court, Farmoor and Eynsham is winding, unlit and too narrow to allow a vehicle to overtake a bike against traffic".......... ..........why's that a problem, it just means the traffic has to stay behind the cyclist until there's a gap, it's not rocket science.[/p][/quote]Not rocket science to read that line again, "winding, unlit and too narrow" On a winters day with rain and poor visibility, an unlit cyclist without a vest can be hard to see given the back drop of hedges etc. The fear here is that before very long a fatality may occur, heaven forbid. The recent re surfacing has helped cyclists keep in the the curb better but with the usage along this stretch an accident is inevitable given the present circumstances. Your analogy is somewhat misplaced[/p][/quote]"On a winters day with rain and poor visibility, an unlit cyclist without a vest can be hard to see".......... ........Simple solution, cyclists should use lights, and wear suitable clothing. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 1

7:33am Sat 21 Jul 12

xjohnx says...

Don't be daft!
Cyclists don't need to use lights etc. They don't have to be considerate to others.
Don't be daft! Cyclists don't need to use lights etc. They don't have to be considerate to others. xjohnx
  • Score: 0

12:33pm Sat 21 Jul 12

medicine man says...

Even if they did have a cycle lane, they would still ride on the road. On the A4095 Witney to Woodstock there is a dedicated cyle path and yet still the half-wit lycra brigade ride on the road.As
xjohnx says,they don't have to be considerate to others.
Even if they did have a cycle lane, they would still ride on the road. On the A4095 Witney to Woodstock there is a dedicated cyle path and yet still the half-wit lycra brigade ride on the road.As xjohnx says,they don't have to be considerate to others. medicine man
  • Score: 0

10:34am Sun 22 Jul 12

38arnett says...

It must be really annoying in your car when you have to lift your foot up by 1/2 a centimetre to slow down for a cycle, then the extra effort of turning the steering wheel by a small amount to go round with a safe distance between the car & cycle (or maybe don't have the energy to bother & stay dangerously close instead, after all it won't be you who dies if it all goes wrong)
You will arrive at your jouneys end exhausted by all that foot & arm excercise.
Medicine man & xjohnx = fools.
It must be really annoying in your car when you have to lift your foot up by 1/2 a centimetre to slow down for a cycle, then the extra effort of turning the steering wheel by a small amount to go round with a safe distance between the car & cycle (or maybe don't have the energy to bother & stay dangerously close instead, after all it won't be you who dies if it all goes wrong) You will arrive at your jouneys end exhausted by all that foot & arm excercise. Medicine man & xjohnx = fools. 38arnett
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12:05pm Sun 22 Jul 12

medicine man says...

Could I just make a couple of points to 38arnett .
First .I am not a fool .Second I am a Paramedic so unfortunately I have picked up my share of cyclists .Third .I don't have a problem with cyclists .My original point I was trying to make was.If there is a cycle track then why not use it ?
Further ,I have been an IAM member since 1985 .
Could I just make a couple of points to 38arnett . First .I am not a fool .Second I am a Paramedic so unfortunately I have picked up my share of cyclists .Third .I don't have a problem with cyclists .My original point I was trying to make was.If there is a cycle track then why not use it ? Further ,I have been an IAM member since 1985 . medicine man
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6:47pm Sun 22 Jul 12

38arnett says...

The 'half wit' lycra brigade cycle on the road because of the ridiculous designs that the council think are adequate cycle lanes - up & down kerbs, stop & get off every time there is a driveway going through a cycle lane (heaven forbid that the car driver might have to edge out slowly to avoid a cyclist, much better to make the cyclist responsible) shared footpath & cycle path etc. If you use a cycle as exercise all the stop start means the road suits better.
The 'half wit' lycra brigade cycle on the road because of the ridiculous designs that the council think are adequate cycle lanes - up & down kerbs, stop & get off every time there is a driveway going through a cycle lane (heaven forbid that the car driver might have to edge out slowly to avoid a cyclist, much better to make the cyclist responsible) shared footpath & cycle path etc. If you use a cycle as exercise all the stop start means the road suits better. 38arnett
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11:11am Wed 25 Jul 12

Cillawaugh says...

Yes, the "lycra brigade" will very possibly still use the road - as they are entitled to do. But the Community Path (it's not just a cycle path) will enable leisure cyclists, along with pedestrians, wheelchair users and parents with baby buggies to move between Eynsham, Farmoor and Dean Court safely and thoughtfully, by taking the time to consider each other's needs. A kind of "shared space" perhaps?
Yes, the "lycra brigade" will very possibly still use the road - as they are entitled to do. But the Community Path (it's not just a cycle path) will enable leisure cyclists, along with pedestrians, wheelchair users and parents with baby buggies to move between Eynsham, Farmoor and Dean Court safely and thoughtfully, by taking the time to consider each other's needs. A kind of "shared space" perhaps? Cillawaugh
  • Score: 1

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