Blackbird Leys families protest against ban on ball games (From thisisoxfordshire)

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
Furlong Close is situated very close to a park, "but the parents say their children are too young to go there alone.".............

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.........what a load of tosh! It's a few minutes walk away, at most.

noodles78 wrote:
oh and as for this positive future scheme, where's our information about it, its been weeks now and we still received no info on it nor have we seen a patrol team around the close as yet

noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising

Andrew:Oxford wrote:

noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising

The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do.

Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time.

It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball

As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.

kaydensmummy wrote:

Andrew:Oxford wrote:

noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising

The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do.

Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time.

It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball

As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.

why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!!

King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,

We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.

kaydensmummy wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,

We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.

would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so

King Joke wrote:
Walls are made out of brick and can quite easily survive a football impact - and what is wrong with throwing your neighbour's kids' ball back, rather than just moaning about them behind their backs to the authorities? Children should be encouraged to flourish, not condemned by a nation of miserable curtain-twitchers.

I haven't got kids myself but can remember many years ago I think I was one myself.

kaydensmummy wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,

We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.

would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so

JanetJ wrote:

kaydensmummy wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,

We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.

would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so

It's probably pretty annoying to have footballs thumping into the side of your house and bouncing over into your garden every few minutes. Not to mention the fact that it seems to be OK for the same kids to just climb over the fence to get their ball back when the occupants won't answer the door on demand.

Doctor69 wrote:

JanetJ wrote:

kaydensmummy wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,

We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.

would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so

It's probably pretty annoying to have footballs thumping into the side of your house and bouncing over into your garden every few minutes. Not to mention the fact that it seems to be OK for the same kids to just climb over the fence to get their ball back when the occupants won't answer the door on demand.

Great comments - if i was one of the neighbours i would complain too. Its not enough for these annoying brats to bang, bang, bang against the wall, they now (no doubt encouraged by the parents) climb into peoples gardens to get the ball back.

Go down the park, or better still, join a proper football team.

Sounds to me like the parents cant be bothered to control the kids, and when adults have complained about the kids, the parents get funny.

noodles78 wrote:
im gobsmacked that u could call children u dont even know brats! as for the ball banging against walls its not an actual house wall its a garden wall that is nowhere near the house im talkin like 6 to 8 feet away from the house, do u seriously think the parents encourage the kids????? can i ask u doctor 69, do u live anywhere near the close? may i add that on one occasion the kids were all outside for around 2 hours and the ball went in a garden once, is that classed as being a nuisance? its just miserable gits who dont like the look of the kids and therefore are doin there very best to make sure they get into trouble, may i add that football clubs would be a great idea if the parents could actually afford it and one of the children is part of a team

i have one more thing to say

as the banner says

YOU HAD A CHILDHOOD
YOUR KIDS HAD THEIRS
NOW LET OUR KIDS TOO!!!!!!!!

noodles78 wrote:
parents do accompany kids to the park but our argument is y should we have to when there is a perfectly good garden out the back that could be divided into an area for washing lines and a fenced area for kids to play football safely, i suggest that people should come to the close and talk to the kids and parents before runnin their mouth and calling the kids brats, i have good reasons for not goin to the park for hours with my kids but im not gonna justify myself to people i dont know

BackontheMainland wrote:
As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue.

Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option.

If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....?

I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.

Andrew:Oxford wrote:

kaydensmummy wrote:

Andrew:Oxford wrote:

noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising

The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do.

Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time.

It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball

As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.

why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!!

You know, I'm mentally reading your comment with the voice of Ms Pollard.

It's quite uncanny.

I would point out that, according to the story, the children aren't playing in a garden, but in a patch of land not far from their home - that clearly was causing their neighbours some distress.

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

BackontheMainland wrote:
As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue.

Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option.

If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....?

I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.

"I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers."..........
.........what difference does it make whether we're mothers or fathers?

kaydensmummy wrote:

Andrew:Oxford wrote:

kaydensmummy wrote:

Andrew:Oxford wrote:

noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising

The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do.

Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time.

It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball

As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.

why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!!

You know, I'm mentally reading your comment with the voice of Ms Pollard.

It's quite uncanny.

I would point out that, according to the story, the children aren't playing in a garden, but in a patch of land not far from their home - that clearly was causing their neighbours some distress.

yeah but no but yeah but no see what happened is the kids lost their garden and now we are trying to get it back for them !!! that ms pollard enough 4 you???? !!! and has noone realised even if the parents could take the children to the park their is a 18 month old toddler too !!! all you assume is that these people sit about all day well no they dont but they havent got the time to take the children to an unsafe park every day as they have lives too,think you should all back off unless you know the true facts !!!

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.

and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.

and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks

"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.

and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks

"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.

Go on then, enlighten us...

kaydensmummy wrote:
yeah come on dilligaf enlighten us because you want to know what they do all day so now u tell us what u do all day !!! everyday when i check the oxfordmail website youve always had to comment so obviously all you do is sit on your fat lazy bone idol **** !!! yeah kids are a main part of our lives but just because we have kids doesnt mean we arent aloud a life you idiot !! some of us those who are part of this protest go to college or work or do courses you know !!! so unless you know these people then i would suggest you keep your gob sealed

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

BackontheMainland wrote:
As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue.

Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option.

If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....?

I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.

"I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers."..........
.........what difference does it make whether we're mothers or fathers?

Because generally Mothers are the main carers of children and carry out the majority of household chores. Mothers are also mainly the parent left with the care of their children if the relationship breaks down.

Maybe you personally wore a pinny, vacuumed and waved your feather duster; cooked hearty meals and cakes; wiped noses and bottoms and had primary care of your children as a Father, but you would be in the minority.

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.

and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks

"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.

Go on then, enlighten us...

Foxtrot Oscar.

Doctor69 wrote:
I work full time, have done since i was 16, I'm now 31. I live in a house i have bought with my girlfriend. We work hard to pay the bills and mortgage. The reason we havent had children yet is due to money.

You on the other hand appear to have done things differently. Oh i have 3 children...i cant afford to buy a home, council please give me a house.

You are in a fortunate position to have housing provided for you, something i have never had the opportunity to be given. Stop moaning, or get a job, save some money and move. Stop sponging off of society and upsetting the neighbours!

noodles78 wrote:
did u ever learn to read because im sure it says a few comments ago that yes i am and i will fight for my kids to have a safe place to play no matter what, i seriously think people who are puttin negative comments should come to the close and speak to the kids and parents and then maybe they would see for themselves these kids arent actually that bad its just the way they have been made out to be

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

BackontheMainland wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.

and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks

"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.

Go on then, enlighten us...

Foxtrot Oscar.

Resorting to foul language, surely a sign of ignorance tut! tut! So you can judge their disabilities so long as nobody judges yours.

kaydensmummy wrote:
nonny mouse im guessing your one of the old battle axes that keep complaining !!!! if you have a problem say it to anyone of our faces dont hide behind a computer screen ok,the kids want to be able to live their lives no kid should have to be locked up inside or forced out there own area !!!! and no i dont care if you dont like what i say because its the truth

Doctor69 wrote:
Also, have some respect for the elderly.

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
Feel i need to highlight this quote again as i find it troubling:

'if people were to open their doors to the kids they wouldnt be trespassin'

That's like a mugger saying 'If people were to give me thier phones and wallets, i wouldn't have to maim them and steal from them' is it not?

Good parenting.

Doctor69 wrote:
It isn’t acceptable to swear at kids like that, but I bet the kids aren’t little angels either!
I like the way you conveniently overlooked my comments regarding hard work to buy a home.

Is it time for Jeremy Kyle yet??

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
And for the record, you have no rights for your children to be able to play football within a specific radius of your home. Your neighbours however DO have the right of 'quiet enjoyment' in their homes.

I think you are fighting a losing battle here. You have tried to force the council's hand by rallying public support for your cause but as you can see from the response, you have very little.

BackontheMainland wrote:

Doctor69 wrote:
It isn’t acceptable to swear at kids like that, but I bet the kids aren’t little angels either!
I like the way you conveniently overlooked my comments regarding hard work to buy a home.

Is it time for Jeremy Kyle yet??

Is it time for you to do some 'hard work' yet? Or are you yet another employee stealing your paid time to post your pompous comments on websites? Hope they don't catch you as it's a sackable offence, and then how would you pay your mortgage?

BackontheMainland wrote:

Doctor69 wrote:
Also, have some respect for the elderly.

But these are just older versions of the council tenants who have children and were given a council home, whom you seem to condemn as spongers. So in your scenario these older generation should have gone back to work and bought their own homes once their children had grown up.

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
And for the record, you have no rights for your children to be able to play football within a specific radius of your home. Your neighbours however DO have the right of 'quiet enjoyment' in their homes.

I think you are fighting a losing battle here. You have tried to force the council's hand by rallying public support for your cause but as you can see from the response, you have very little.

Doctor69 wrote:
When i was a child, i used to play in the garden at home, or i would go to the park. My parents wouldnt allow me to play football outside others houses as its annoying to them.

I dont have kids myself, but if i did, i would encourage the same behaviour. Play in the garden or go to the park. I definatly wouldnt go crying to the press because they wernt allowed to use land next to a neighbours house.

Seriously, parents of these kids, get a grip. Take the children to the park if it isnt safe for them to go alone. If that is to much effort for you, maybe you should consider moving somewhere that has a garden?

I understand kids need to play etc, but adults who have had a hard day at work need time to destress and relax in the comfort of their own homes, instead of being wound up by some chav kids!

A close isnt designed for football, its designed to live in. Parks are designed to play in. Simple!

noodles78 wrote:

Doctor69 wrote:
When i was a child, i used to play in the garden at home, or i would go to the park. My parents wouldnt allow me to play football outside others houses as its annoying to them.

I dont have kids myself, but if i did, i would encourage the same behaviour. Play in the garden or go to the park. I definatly wouldnt go crying to the press because they wernt allowed to use land next to a neighbours house.

Seriously, parents of these kids, get a grip. Take the children to the park if it isnt safe for them to go alone. If that is to much effort for you, maybe you should consider moving somewhere that has a garden?

I understand kids need to play etc, but adults who have had a hard day at work need time to destress and relax in the comfort of their own homes, instead of being wound up by some chav kids!

A close isnt designed for football, its designed to live in. Parks are designed to play in. Simple!

r u prepared to come to furlong close and tell the kids and parents that the kids are chavs???????

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I wouldn't Doc. If it is as bad as they say it is, you are bound to get stabbed/stolen from/high on your way to or from.....

Their words, not mine.

Doctor69 wrote:
Very true, but I'm not going to waste my time coming to argue with you in a street. Just get the parents and kids to read these comments. Then they can see how supporting the county are towards their cause?

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
I've never been a drug user, so have limited experience of the way of life, but I find it hard to believe that the park, a large open space, visible from many difference perspectives, would be somewhere drug dealers and users, would choose to carry out their transactions, surely they'd do them somewhere less visible, as for the stabbings and bag snatching, if nobody's been using the park, I suspect the perpetrators have moved on to a different area.
Perhaps it's time for some parents to experience exercise too, and take a load of kids to the park.

noodles78 wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
I've never been a drug user, so have limited experience of the way of life, but I find it hard to believe that the park, a large open space, visible from many difference perspectives, would be somewhere drug dealers and users, would choose to carry out their transactions, surely they'd do them somewhere less visible, as for the stabbings and bag snatching, if nobody's been using the park, I suspect the perpetrators have moved on to a different area.
Perhaps it's time for some parents to experience exercise too, and take a load of kids to the park.

in a previous comment i put that just recently (whilst i was at the park with my children) i witnessed a drug deal in the park area in full view of the kids, is this really wot i should be lettin my 3 children see?

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north?

Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.

doggiedoggie wrote:

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north?

Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.

HAVE THE COUNCIL GIVEN REASON FOR PUTTING SHRUBS INTO THE GRASSED AREA THEY HAD ?

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?

noodles78 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north?

Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.

HAVE THE COUNCIL GIVEN REASON FOR PUTTING SHRUBS INTO THE GRASSED AREA THEY HAD ?

yes the council have given reason, because the older people in studio flats downstairs didnt like the kids playin ball in their, my argument is y can they not fence off an area in the garden for the kids and they wouldnt be a nuisance to anyone

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north?

Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.

Captain J wrote:
Just typed "furlong close oxford" into google maps.

Blimey. I wish I'd grown up so close to THREE FULL SIZED FOOTBALL PITCHES. I wouldn't have had to play football in the street so much...

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?

noodles78 wrote:

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?

im sorry but exactly wot has cars n walls got to do with the garden out the back of the maisonettes

noodles78 wrote:
oh n just to let all u negative people know i have been to the park with my children but had to make them go home again as it was full of teenagers and dossers who had taken up root on most of the swings etc and so there was nowhere for my 18 month old to play and even when they were asked to move they ignored it!!!!!!!

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

JanetJ wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live

kaydensmummy wrote:

JanetJ wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live

it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

kaydensmummy wrote:

JanetJ wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live

it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love

"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!"..........
...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho

t yourself in the foot there :-)

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

kaydensmummy wrote:

JanetJ wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live

it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love

"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!"..........
...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho


t yourself in the foot there :-)

ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME TRYING TO SORT OUT. ENOUGH SAID FROM ME !

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

kaydensmummy wrote:

JanetJ wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live

it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love

"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!"..........
...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho


t yourself in the foot there :-)

ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME TRYING TO SORT OUT. ENOUGH SAID FROM ME !

famalam wrote:
Got to remember that the tiny number of people commenting on this article so negatively isn't the whole public. I'd be surprised if most people didn't agree with you parents actually.

It shouldnt be a families and children vs. old people thing. It should be a families, children and old people vs. the council thing! Its the council who has failed to maintain safe parks or gardens, and so they are at fault. I feel sorry for the old people being disturbed by kids playing football. But more sorry for the kids who can't play football outside and their families.

norwood-clark2010 wrote:
it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off

A34North wrote:

famalam wrote:
Got to remember that the tiny number of people commenting on this article so negatively isn't the whole public. I'd be surprised if most people didn't agree with you parents actually.

It shouldnt be a families and children vs. old people thing. It should be a families, children and old people vs. the council thing! Its the council who has failed to maintain safe parks or gardens, and so they are at fault. I feel sorry for the old people being disturbed by kids playing football. But more sorry for the kids who can't play football outside and their families.

Yes that dreadful council who give out housing benefit to all those selfish people who expect more, more, more, in their me, me, me world. Why if it wasn't for them we could have elderly people homes, care workers and park wardens where the kids would be safe from those horrible nasty people and fouling dogs.
You must be pleased this government is hoping to crack down on these people. Allegedly there are some people who think its no more than a form of prostitution; they get the pleasure and we all have to pay for it.

Doctor69 wrote:

norwood-clark2010 wrote:
it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off

You cannot expect to be taken seriously when you misspeal 'OF'.

kaydensmummy wrote:
how have i shot myself in the foot there u dumb **** !!! i quoted on what janetj said about why have kids if havent got suitable accomodation !!!! read my comment again u fool now dont bother replying your boring me now

norwood-clark2010 wrote:
it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off

kaydensmummy wrote:
how have i shot myself in the foot there u dumb **** !!! i quoted on what janetj said about why have kids if havent got suitable accomodation !!!! read my comment again u fool now dont bother replying your boring me now

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

norwood-clark2010 wrote:
it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off

Oh yes, back in the days when we WERE kids, there were no such thing as perverts, try telling that to the parents of Genette Tate who disappeared in 1978, and there have been plenty of other cases too.
I think there were more cases of child abduction in the 60's & 70's than there are now, the only one in recent times that springs to mind was Madeleine McCann, and that wasn't even in the UK.
People are using this as an excuse as though it happens every day, on every street in the country, yes it's happened, and it's a heinous crime, but I don't think I've heard of an incident where one child has been abducted from a crowd, certainly not from a park overlooked by loads of houses.

GTS kiddy wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!

Bon Rurgundy wrote:
I am absolutely staggered by some people's sense of entitlement...

BenkiuGuasu wrote:
Let the kids play ball. Complaining residents need to get a life.

simplicissimus wrote:
Ball games on residential streets, pavements, walls, &c, are often noisy and an antisocial nuisance. Players often lose control and property and vehicles are likely to be hit and even damaged.

We should support bans, which protect the greater common good, and encourage such games on grassed areas away from close proximity to homes, where the thudding is less noticeable.

Well done to those who have restricted ball games in areas that are less fit, and may the ban be rolled out across the City!

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!

"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?

Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!

"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?

It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.

A34North wrote:

Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!

"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?

It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.

Oh please, have you not read the whole article and comments? We moved on from drugs and child molesters many comments ago we are at present on dog crap as the excuse.

John Lamb wrote:
This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog?
If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight.
I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted.
Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents.
After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't.
Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout?
Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?

John Lamb wrote:
*their
Oops

A34North wrote:

John Lamb wrote:
This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog?
If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight.
I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted.
Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents.
After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't.
Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout?
Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?

John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

A34North wrote:

John Lamb wrote:
This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog?
If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight.
I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted.
Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents.
After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't.
Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout?
Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?

John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?

I doubt it very much, they've dug themselves a hole, so deep, that they can't get out of to reach their computers.

A34North wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

A34North wrote:

John Lamb wrote:
This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog?
If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight.
I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted.
Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents.
After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't.
Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout?
Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?

John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?

I doubt it very much, they've dug themselves a hole, so deep, that they can't get out of to reach their computers.

Hey Dilly, maybe they have taken them to the park?

famalam wrote:
John Lamb does not have a valid point. His main point as i see it is that the grass they're playing football on now will have the same people going past it who make the park unsuitable for kids. This is wrong. It is wrong because the point is not that there will be unsavoury types walking past, but that drug deals happen in sight of the kids. Drug dealers may walk past the grass the kids play football on, but then that's inevitable to some extent wherever you live, cos there's loads of dealers... The point is that people don't actually deal in front of where the kids play football at the moment. The same applies with perverts/paedos. Over to you.

Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!

"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?

It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.

famalam wrote:
John Lamb does not have a valid point. His main point as i see it is that the grass they're playing football on now will have the same people going past it who make the park unsuitable for kids. This is wrong. It is wrong because the point is not that there will be unsavoury types walking past, but that drug deals happen in sight of the kids. Drug dealers may walk past the grass the kids play football on, but then that's inevitable to some extent wherever you live, cos there's loads of dealers... The point is that people don't actually deal in front of where the kids play football at the moment. The same applies with perverts/paedos. Over to you.

GTS kiddy wrote:

Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

Dilligaf2010 wrote:

doggiedoggie wrote:

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!

well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.

These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.

they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?

-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!

"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?

It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.

obv i was joking yes.
It is up to parents to keep an eye on their own children.
But I dont think at 10 years old parents should have to escort the children to the park because of drug dealers, etc.... and older kids and dog mess!!
also as I ws saying before if you have a younger child in the park would you want a couple of youngsters kicking a ball around? poor kids cant do anything right nowadays. give them a bit of green for playing footy a park with swings etc for the others. and for gods sake people stop being so negative and miserable. life is too short, not everyone is equal, just deal with it!!

kaydensmummy wrote:
my last say on the matter because quite frankly i have better things to do but what your actually missing out is that its not the land the parents want they want the garden back !!!!!

noodles78 wrote:
have some respect for the elderly!!!!! dont make me laugh, u tell me y these kids should show respect to someone who opens their door and says stop kickin ur f****ng football in my garden and im phonin the f****ng council about u, answer that cos when i was younger i was taught to show respect to people who gave u respect!