Blackbird Leys families protest against ban on ball games

Back, left to right, Cathy Cartwright, Steffanie Anderson, Connor Hockin, nine, Max Cartwright, nine, brother Leigh, 11, and Ann Davey with baby Lucian Lloyd; front, left to right: Peter, 10, and Jodi Jones, six, Tyler Hockin, nine, and Kristian Lloyd

Back, left to right, Cathy Cartwright, Steffanie Anderson, Connor Hockin, nine, Max Cartwright, nine, brother Leigh, 11, and Ann Davey with baby Lucian Lloyd; front, left to right: Peter, 10, and Jodi Jones, six, Tyler Hockin, nine, and Kristian Lloyd

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FAMILIES in an Oxford street are protesting against council rules which stop their children playing football outside their homes.


Three young families in Furlong Street, Blackbird Leys, last month received letters from CANAcT, the Crime and Nuisance Action Team, due to the complaints of neighbours.


The children, aged between nine and 11, used to play on a grass patch at the end of the street.


But Oxford City Council said the children should play in a nearby park.


Council spokesman Louisa Dean said: “We had received some complaints from nearby residents about children kicking footballs against walls and going into gardens which can be a nuisance for some residents.


“We have reminded them of the park that is nearby and informed them of the Positive Futures scheme. We hope that they will engage with Positive Futures which provides activities outside of school hours.”


Mum-of-three Ann Davey, 33, said: “There are three young families living on the top floor of these maisonettes here.


“There are six children here and five of those are boys. And what do boys want to do? They want to play football.”


Ms Davey, mum to nine-year-old twins Tyler and Connor, said they used to play in a communal garden until the council planted large shrubs there. They then moved to the street but have now been warned to stop.


Ms Davey said: “Neighbours complained when the boys knocked on the door to ask for their ball back.


“But then they complain when the boys, after being ignored, jump over the fence to get it instead.


“I know the neighbours will say ‘they should play somewhere else’. But there is literally nowhere else for them to go.”


Furlong Close is situated very close to a park, but the parents say their children are too young to go there alone.


Following complaints from neighbours, the three families received letters from CANAcT, run by the city council.


The letter, dated June 27, says: “It is not acceptable for people to play ball games in Furlong Close. There are appropriate facilities available for this nearby.”


It also says Community Response Teams will be patrolling the area to make sure the rules were followed.


‘No Ball Games’ signs have been put up around the street.


Jan Cosgrove, national secretary for campaign group Fair Play for Children, said: “In the last four decades, we have removed around 750,000 acres of free space for children to play in.


“We have to ask ourselves what the consequences are for keeping our children cooped up because we have reached a crisis.
“A balance needs to be struck.”

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7:27am Tue 17 Jul 12

Lord Palmerstone says...

OM you've missed out the bit where the aggrieved Junior Beckhams' spokesman explained why they couldn't use the park.Long on grievance, short on common sense?
OM you've missed out the bit where the aggrieved Junior Beckhams' spokesman explained why they couldn't use the park.Long on grievance, short on common sense? Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: 6

7:51am Tue 17 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

Furlong Close is situated very close to a park, "but the parents say their children are too young to go there alone.".............
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.........what a load of tosh! It's a few minutes walk away, at most.
Furlong Close is situated very close to a park, "but the parents say their children are too young to go there alone."............. .. .........what a load of tosh! It's a few minutes walk away, at most. Dilligaf2010
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8:13am Tue 17 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
Furlong Close is situated very close to a park, "but the parents say their children are too young to go there alone.".............

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.........what a load of tosh! It's a few minutes walk away, at most.
i know the people in this article and its the fact that my friends partner got attacked just by their house so imagine what could happen to the children !!! it may be a few minutes walk but u can not see from the masonettes to the park so the kids could be attacked at any time !!!
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: Furlong Close is situated very close to a park, "but the parents say their children are too young to go there alone."............. .. .........what a load of tosh! It's a few minutes walk away, at most.[/p][/quote]i know the people in this article and its the fact that my friends partner got attacked just by their house so imagine what could happen to the children !!! it may be a few minutes walk but u can not see from the masonettes to the park so the kids could be attacked at any time !!! kaydensmummy
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8:24am Tue 17 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

furlong close and surrounding area is a known area for all the druggies to use to deal etc, if u think im sendin my kids over to sandy lane park where ive seen a number of adults dealing drugs and some just staring at the kids as they play u have another thing coming, yes the park may be just down the road but at 9 years old its still not close enough for them to go alone!
furlong close and surrounding area is a known area for all the druggies to use to deal etc, if u think im sendin my kids over to sandy lane park where ive seen a number of adults dealing drugs and some just staring at the kids as they play u have another thing coming, yes the park may be just down the road but at 9 years old its still not close enough for them to go alone! noodles78
  • Score: -9

8:30am Tue 17 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

oh and as for this positive future scheme, where's our information about it, its been weeks now and we still received no info on it nor have we seen a patrol team around the close as yet
oh and as for this positive future scheme, where's our information about it, its been weeks now and we still received no info on it nor have we seen a patrol team around the close as yet noodles78
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7:36pm Tue 17 Jul 12

Andrew:Oxford says...

noodles78 wrote:
oh and as for this positive future scheme, where's our information about it, its been weeks now and we still received no info on it nor have we seen a patrol team around the close as yet
I see four adults in the picture.

Surely at least one of them would be willing to walk to the park and sit and read a book, or frob/work on a mobile device whilst the children played within sight.
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: oh and as for this positive future scheme, where's our information about it, its been weeks now and we still received no info on it nor have we seen a patrol team around the close as yet[/p][/quote]I see four adults in the picture. Surely at least one of them would be willing to walk to the park and sit and read a book, or frob/work on a mobile device whilst the children played within sight. Andrew:Oxford
  • Score: 6

7:42pm Tue 17 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising noodles78
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9:34pm Tue 17 Jul 12

Andrew:Oxford says...

noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising
The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do.

Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time.

It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball

As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising[/p][/quote]The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do. Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time. It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies. Andrew:Oxford
  • Score: 14

9:44pm Tue 17 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

seriously! u expect me to justify wot im sayin to u by tellin u someone elses problems, if the shoe was on the other foot wouldn't u do everything in ur power to make sure ur child/ren were safe
seriously! u expect me to justify wot im sayin to u by tellin u someone elses problems, if the shoe was on the other foot wouldn't u do everything in ur power to make sure ur child/ren were safe noodles78
  • Score: -21

9:49pm Tue 17 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

Andrew:Oxford wrote:
noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising
The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do.

Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time.

It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball

As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.
why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!!
[quote][p][bold]Andrew:Oxford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising[/p][/quote]The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do. Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time. It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.[/p][/quote]why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!! kaydensmummy
  • Score: -18

9:54pm Tue 17 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 16

9:58pm Tue 17 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

yes those people did manage to have picture taken to fight for wots right for their kids, as i said before if the shoe was on the other foot wouldnt u do everythin in ur power to keep ur child/ren safe!
yes those people did manage to have picture taken to fight for wots right for their kids, as i said before if the shoe was on the other foot wouldnt u do everythin in ur power to keep ur child/ren safe! noodles78
  • Score: -19

10:02pm Tue 17 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

so what if they did they are fighting for the rights of their children !!! i know if my son had got banned from playing in his garden or playing near his home where he feels "SAFE" then id do exact same and i bet any other parent would too !!! i dont see why these kids should be stopped from playing in the areas they feel safe in to be sent to a park where anything could happen
so what if they did they are fighting for the rights of their children !!! i know if my son had got banned from playing in his garden or playing near his home where he feels "SAFE" then id do exact same and i bet any other parent would too !!! i dont see why these kids should be stopped from playing in the areas they feel safe in to be sent to a park where anything could happen kaydensmummy
  • Score: -14

10:35pm Tue 17 Jul 12

Andrew:Oxford says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
Andrew:Oxford wrote:
noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising
The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do.

Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time.

It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball

As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.
why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!!
You know, I'm mentally reading your comment with the voice of Ms Pollard.

It's quite uncanny.

I would point out that, according to the story, the children aren't playing in a garden, but in a patch of land not far from their home - that clearly was causing their neighbours some distress.
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew:Oxford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising[/p][/quote]The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do. Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time. It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.[/p][/quote]why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!![/p][/quote]You know, I'm mentally reading your comment with the voice of Ms Pollard. It's quite uncanny. I would point out that, according to the story, the children aren't playing in a garden, but in a patch of land not far from their home - that clearly was causing their neighbours some distress. Andrew:Oxford
  • Score: 18

10:39pm Tue 17 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

yes they are because they DONT have a garden, if u read the article it will tell u the council took the communal garden away and planted a shrubbery and put no ball games signs in there!!!!!!!!!
yes they are because they DONT have a garden, if u read the article it will tell u the council took the communal garden away and planted a shrubbery and put no ball games signs in there!!!!!!!!! noodles78
  • Score: -18

10:43pm Tue 17 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

wooooooo u do that buddy !!! get your glasses back out and read again !!! "Ms Davey, mum to nine-year-old twins Tyler and Connor, said they used to play in a communal garden until the council planted large shrubs there. They then moved to the street but have now been warned to stop." there you go communal garden !! im sorry but people like u make me laugh it would be different if it was your kids/grandkids wouldnt it you would soon stick up for them all we are doing is trying to get the kids somewhere safe to play
wooooooo u do that buddy !!! get your glasses back out and read again !!! "Ms Davey, mum to nine-year-old twins Tyler and Connor, said they used to play in a communal garden until the council planted large shrubs there. They then moved to the street but have now been warned to stop." there you go communal garden !! im sorry but people like u make me laugh it would be different if it was your kids/grandkids wouldnt it you would soon stick up for them all we are doing is trying to get the kids somewhere safe to play kaydensmummy
  • Score: -16

8:50am Wed 18 Jul 12

King Joke says...

We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it. THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs. We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish., King Joke
  • Score: -8

9:57am Wed 18 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,
We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it. THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs. We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,[/p][/quote]We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 13

10:00am Wed 18 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,
We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.
would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it. THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs. We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,[/p][/quote]We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.[/p][/quote]would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so kaydensmummy
  • Score: -10

10:09am Wed 18 Jul 12

King Joke says...

If we had more footballers maybe the Premiership wouldn't have to buy in so much talent from abroad and the national team would have a fighting chance at major championships. THis stuff starts from grass-roots level, if you'll pardon the pun.
If we had more footballers maybe the Premiership wouldn't have to buy in so much talent from abroad and the national team would have a fighting chance at major championships. THis stuff starts from grass-roots level, if you'll pardon the pun. King Joke
  • Score: -10

10:18am Wed 18 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,
We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.
would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so
And of course kicking balls against people's walls, and into gardens isn't causing trouble is it.
There's still been no valid argument as to why one of the parents can't accompany the kids to the park, laziness isn't actually a medical condition.
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it. THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs. We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,[/p][/quote]We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.[/p][/quote]would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so[/p][/quote]And of course kicking balls against people's walls, and into gardens isn't causing trouble is it. There's still been no valid argument as to why one of the parents can't accompany the kids to the park, laziness isn't actually a medical condition. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 16

10:38am Wed 18 Jul 12

King Joke says...

Walls are made out of brick and can quite easily survive a football impact - and what is wrong with throwing your neighbour's kids' ball back, rather than just moaning about them behind their backs to the authorities? Children should be encouraged to flourish, not condemned by a nation of miserable curtain-twitchers.

I haven't got kids myself but can remember many years ago I think I was one myself.
Walls are made out of brick and can quite easily survive a football impact - and what is wrong with throwing your neighbour's kids' ball back, rather than just moaning about them behind their backs to the authorities? Children should be encouraged to flourish, not condemned by a nation of miserable curtain-twitchers. I haven't got kids myself but can remember many years ago I think I was one myself. King Joke
  • Score: -12

11:24am Wed 18 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

King Joke wrote:
Walls are made out of brick and can quite easily survive a football impact - and what is wrong with throwing your neighbour's kids' ball back, rather than just moaning about them behind their backs to the authorities? Children should be encouraged to flourish, not condemned by a nation of miserable curtain-twitchers.

I haven't got kids myself but can remember many years ago I think I was one myself.
Yes walls can survive the impact of a ball, but if you're sat the other side of the wall that the football's constantly hitting, it can become intolerable, I know from experience.
As for returning a child's ball, again, I've got no issues with that, but if it becomes a regular occurrence, then once again, it becomes intolerable, this is perhaps why the individuals started to ignore the kids, and instead opted to complain.
I have kids, although they no longer live here,and I'm not a curtain-twitcher, but I believe everybody is entitled to a bit of peace and quiet inside their own homes.
There are kids that play football out the back of where I live, but there are no issues of balls getting into people's gardens, or ricocheting off walls constantly, so they're causing no problems, the parents are often out there with them too.
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: Walls are made out of brick and can quite easily survive a football impact - and what is wrong with throwing your neighbour's kids' ball back, rather than just moaning about them behind their backs to the authorities? Children should be encouraged to flourish, not condemned by a nation of miserable curtain-twitchers. I haven't got kids myself but can remember many years ago I think I was one myself.[/p][/quote]Yes walls can survive the impact of a ball, but if you're sat the other side of the wall that the football's constantly hitting, it can become intolerable, I know from experience. As for returning a child's ball, again, I've got no issues with that, but if it becomes a regular occurrence, then once again, it becomes intolerable, this is perhaps why the individuals started to ignore the kids, and instead opted to complain. I have kids, although they no longer live here,and I'm not a curtain-twitcher, but I believe everybody is entitled to a bit of peace and quiet inside their own homes. There are kids that play football out the back of where I live, but there are no issues of balls getting into people's gardens, or ricocheting off walls constantly, so they're causing no problems, the parents are often out there with them too. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 8

11:32am Wed 18 Jul 12

JanetJ says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,
We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.
would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so
It's probably pretty annoying to have footballs thumping into the side of your house and bouncing over into your garden every few minutes. Not to mention the fact that it seems to be OK for the same kids to just climb over the fence to get their ball back when the occupants won't answer the door on demand.
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it. THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs. We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,[/p][/quote]We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.[/p][/quote]would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so[/p][/quote]It's probably pretty annoying to have footballs thumping into the side of your house and bouncing over into your garden every few minutes. Not to mention the fact that it seems to be OK for the same kids to just climb over the fence to get their ball back when the occupants won't answer the door on demand. JanetJ
  • Score: 25

1:14pm Wed 18 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

JanetJ wrote:
kaydensmummy wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,
We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.
would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so
It's probably pretty annoying to have footballs thumping into the side of your house and bouncing over into your garden every few minutes. Not to mention the fact that it seems to be OK for the same kids to just climb over the fence to get their ball back when the occupants won't answer the door on demand.
Great comments - if i was one of the neighbours i would complain too. Its not enough for these annoying brats to bang, bang, bang against the wall, they now (no doubt encouraged by the parents) climb into peoples gardens to get the ball back.

Go down the park, or better still, join a proper football team.

Sounds to me like the parents cant be bothered to control the kids, and when adults have complained about the kids, the parents get funny.
[quote][p][bold]JanetJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it. THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs. We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,[/p][/quote]We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.[/p][/quote]would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so[/p][/quote]It's probably pretty annoying to have footballs thumping into the side of your house and bouncing over into your garden every few minutes. Not to mention the fact that it seems to be OK for the same kids to just climb over the fence to get their ball back when the occupants won't answer the door on demand.[/p][/quote]Great comments - if i was one of the neighbours i would complain too. Its not enough for these annoying brats to bang, bang, bang against the wall, they now (no doubt encouraged by the parents) climb into peoples gardens to get the ball back. Go down the park, or better still, join a proper football team. Sounds to me like the parents cant be bothered to control the kids, and when adults have complained about the kids, the parents get funny. Doctor69
  • Score: 23

2:06pm Wed 18 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

Doctor69 wrote:
JanetJ wrote:
kaydensmummy wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
King Joke wrote:
We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it.

THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs.

We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,
We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.
would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so
It's probably pretty annoying to have footballs thumping into the side of your house and bouncing over into your garden every few minutes. Not to mention the fact that it seems to be OK for the same kids to just climb over the fence to get their ball back when the occupants won't answer the door on demand.
Great comments - if i was one of the neighbours i would complain too. Its not enough for these annoying brats to bang, bang, bang against the wall, they now (no doubt encouraged by the parents) climb into peoples gardens to get the ball back.

Go down the park, or better still, join a proper football team.

Sounds to me like the parents cant be bothered to control the kids, and when adults have complained about the kids, the parents get funny.
considering they dont actually bang against the wall the only wall they do bang against is a wall next to the garages where there is no houses !!! its just the older generation dont want kids to have a good time !!!!!! think back to when you was kids and you was aloud to play outside your house all these kids want is their garden back or somewhere where they feel safe enough to play football! the parents do have medical problems and i know that but as we said before why should they justify themselves to people they dont know thats personal !!!
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JanetJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: We need more footballers, anyone watching the Euros could see that. We need to get kids playing at every level, and of their own accord, not just just forced to at school. If the place they feel comfortable doing so is outside their own house then so be it. THe people complaining are no better than those stifling our music scene by complaining about bands playing in pubs. We need a bit more tolerance to allow our young people's talents to flourish.,[/p][/quote]We need more footballers? Urm no, there are already too many overpaid under worked idiots on the planet.[/p][/quote]would u rather they were out causing trouble on the streets ??? at least they want to keep out of trouble and play with their friends and keep fit at the same time ! just a shame not everyone thinks so[/p][/quote]It's probably pretty annoying to have footballs thumping into the side of your house and bouncing over into your garden every few minutes. Not to mention the fact that it seems to be OK for the same kids to just climb over the fence to get their ball back when the occupants won't answer the door on demand.[/p][/quote]Great comments - if i was one of the neighbours i would complain too. Its not enough for these annoying brats to bang, bang, bang against the wall, they now (no doubt encouraged by the parents) climb into peoples gardens to get the ball back. Go down the park, or better still, join a proper football team. Sounds to me like the parents cant be bothered to control the kids, and when adults have complained about the kids, the parents get funny.[/p][/quote]considering they dont actually bang against the wall the only wall they do bang against is a wall next to the garages where there is no houses !!! its just the older generation dont want kids to have a good time !!!!!! think back to when you was kids and you was aloud to play outside your house all these kids want is their garden back or somewhere where they feel safe enough to play football! the parents do have medical problems and i know that but as we said before why should they justify themselves to people they dont know thats personal !!! kaydensmummy
  • Score: -21

2:30pm Wed 18 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

im gobsmacked that u could call children u dont even know brats! as for the ball banging against walls its not an actual house wall its a garden wall that is nowhere near the house im talkin like 6 to 8 feet away from the house, do u seriously think the parents encourage the kids????? can i ask u doctor 69, do u live anywhere near the close? may i add that on one occasion the kids were all outside for around 2 hours and the ball went in a garden once, is that classed as being a nuisance? its just miserable gits who dont like the look of the kids and therefore are doin there very best to make sure they get into trouble, may i add that football clubs would be a great idea if the parents could actually afford it and one of the children is part of a team

i have one more thing to say

as the banner says

YOU HAD A CHILDHOOD
YOUR KIDS HAD THEIRS
NOW LET OUR KIDS TOO!!!!!!!!
im gobsmacked that u could call children u dont even know brats! as for the ball banging against walls its not an actual house wall its a garden wall that is nowhere near the house im talkin like 6 to 8 feet away from the house, do u seriously think the parents encourage the kids????? can i ask u doctor 69, do u live anywhere near the close? may i add that on one occasion the kids were all outside for around 2 hours and the ball went in a garden once, is that classed as being a nuisance? its just miserable gits who dont like the look of the kids and therefore are doin there very best to make sure they get into trouble, may i add that football clubs would be a great idea if the parents could actually afford it and one of the children is part of a team i have one more thing to say as the banner says YOU HAD A CHILDHOOD YOUR KIDS HAD THEIRS NOW LET OUR KIDS TOO!!!!!!!! noodles78
  • Score: -18

2:55pm Wed 18 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

Still nobody has given an adequate reason for a parent not to accompany the kids to the park.
When I was a child I was allowed to play outside, but if ever a football was involved we played well away from houses, it was standard practice, maybe it was my upbringing, I've no idea.
Still nobody has given an adequate reason for a parent not to accompany the kids to the park. When I was a child I was allowed to play outside, but if ever a football was involved we played well away from houses, it was standard practice, maybe it was my upbringing, I've no idea. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 11

3:01pm Wed 18 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

parents do accompany kids to the park but our argument is y should we have to when there is a perfectly good garden out the back that could be divided into an area for washing lines and a fenced area for kids to play football safely, i suggest that people should come to the close and talk to the kids and parents before runnin their mouth and calling the kids brats, i have good reasons for not goin to the park for hours with my kids but im not gonna justify myself to people i dont know
parents do accompany kids to the park but our argument is y should we have to when there is a perfectly good garden out the back that could be divided into an area for washing lines and a fenced area for kids to play football safely, i suggest that people should come to the close and talk to the kids and parents before runnin their mouth and calling the kids brats, i have good reasons for not goin to the park for hours with my kids but im not gonna justify myself to people i dont know noodles78
  • Score: -18

3:27pm Wed 18 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

i have good reasons for not goin to the park for hours with my kids but im not gonna justify myself to people i dont know.......
........Sitting in front of the computer or TV?
i have good reasons for not goin to the park for hours with my kids but im not gonna justify myself to people i dont know....... ........Sitting in front of the computer or TV? Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 12

3:39pm Wed 18 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

noodles78 wrote:
im gobsmacked that u could call children u dont even know brats! as for the ball banging against walls its not an actual house wall its a garden wall that is nowhere near the house im talkin like 6 to 8 feet away from the house, do u seriously think the parents encourage the kids????? can i ask u doctor 69, do u live anywhere near the close? may i add that on one occasion the kids were all outside for around 2 hours and the ball went in a garden once, is that classed as being a nuisance? its just miserable gits who dont like the look of the kids and therefore are doin there very best to make sure they get into trouble, may i add that football clubs would be a great idea if the parents could actually afford it and one of the children is part of a team

i have one more thing to say

as the banner says

YOU HAD A CHILDHOOD
YOUR KIDS HAD THEIRS
NOW LET OUR KIDS TOO!!!!!!!!
'may i add that on one occasion the kids were all outside for around 2 hours and the ball went in a garden once, is that classed as being a nuisance?'

Because that was, as you say, only one occasion. One of many. You try living there and flinching everytime the ball whack against your garden wall. What ever happened to simple consideration? Instead your children are encouraged to carry on however they please and if challenged to be antagonistic, fully backed up by you.
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: im gobsmacked that u could call children u dont even know brats! as for the ball banging against walls its not an actual house wall its a garden wall that is nowhere near the house im talkin like 6 to 8 feet away from the house, do u seriously think the parents encourage the kids????? can i ask u doctor 69, do u live anywhere near the close? may i add that on one occasion the kids were all outside for around 2 hours and the ball went in a garden once, is that classed as being a nuisance? its just miserable gits who dont like the look of the kids and therefore are doin there very best to make sure they get into trouble, may i add that football clubs would be a great idea if the parents could actually afford it and one of the children is part of a team i have one more thing to say as the banner says YOU HAD A CHILDHOOD YOUR KIDS HAD THEIRS NOW LET OUR KIDS TOO!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]'may i add that on one occasion the kids were all outside for around 2 hours and the ball went in a garden once, is that classed as being a nuisance?' Because that was, as you say, only one occasion. One of many. You try living there and flinching everytime the ball whack against your garden wall. What ever happened to simple consideration? Instead your children are encouraged to carry on however they please and if challenged to be antagonistic, fully backed up by you. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 16

3:42pm Wed 18 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

noodles78 wrote:
parents do accompany kids to the park but our argument is y should we have to when there is a perfectly good garden out the back that could be divided into an area for washing lines and a fenced area for kids to play football safely, i suggest that people should come to the close and talk to the kids and parents before runnin their mouth and calling the kids brats, i have good reasons for not goin to the park for hours with my kids but im not gonna justify myself to people i dont know
'perfectly good garden' - It's not a garden. It's a patch of council owned grass, next to dwellings.

'could be divided into an area for washing lines' - What do they call that? Favela-chic?

'i have good reasons for not goin to the park for hours with my kids but im not gonna justify myself to people i dont know' - You do realise that being parent isn't an opt-out activity?
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: parents do accompany kids to the park but our argument is y should we have to when there is a perfectly good garden out the back that could be divided into an area for washing lines and a fenced area for kids to play football safely, i suggest that people should come to the close and talk to the kids and parents before runnin their mouth and calling the kids brats, i have good reasons for not goin to the park for hours with my kids but im not gonna justify myself to people i dont know[/p][/quote]'perfectly good garden' - It's not a garden. It's a patch of council owned grass, next to dwellings. 'could be divided into an area for washing lines' - What do they call that? Favela-chic? 'i have good reasons for not goin to the park for hours with my kids but im not gonna justify myself to people i dont know' - You do realise that being parent isn't an opt-out activity? ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 8

4:44pm Wed 18 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

so im guessin that u r one of the people who are complaining then, if so y not come speak to us face to face instead of hiding away and the garden i was talkin about is the one out the back not the green area out the front, if u have anythin else to add come speak to me instead of hiding away in newspaper comments thats gutless!
so im guessin that u r one of the people who are complaining then, if so y not come speak to us face to face instead of hiding away and the garden i was talkin about is the one out the back not the green area out the front, if u have anythin else to add come speak to me instead of hiding away in newspaper comments thats gutless! noodles78
  • Score: -12

5:54pm Wed 18 Jul 12

norwood-clark2010 says...

If my kids were round furlong close i wouldnt send them 2 the park A they r 2 young and B u dont know who is out watching them its not safe anymore they should be able 2 play football on the close so they can be seen
If my kids were round furlong close i wouldnt send them 2 the park A they r 2 young and B u dont know who is out watching them its not safe anymore they should be able 2 play football on the close so they can be seen norwood-clark2010
  • Score: -17

7:00pm Wed 18 Jul 12

famalam says...

It would be good if all middle-class people stopped commenting. You've got gardens where your children can play. Your local parks are safe, quiet places where children can play without adults. You don't have disabilities, and clearly don't understand disabilities.
The real solution would be for bigger better gardens built by the council!
It would be good if all middle-class people stopped commenting. You've got gardens where your children can play. Your local parks are safe, quiet places where children can play without adults. You don't have disabilities, and clearly don't understand disabilities. The real solution would be for bigger better gardens built by the council! famalam
  • Score: -18

7:17pm Wed 18 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

Why do you assume that? 'Coz dey tawk propa'?

I had a basic state education and managed to figure out reading and writing ok......
Why do you assume that? 'Coz dey tawk propa'? I had a basic state education and managed to figure out reading and writing ok...... ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 15

8:28pm Wed 18 Jul 12

cuckoo says...

Possible solutions to this issue:

1: remove the large shrubs from the communal garden and return to grass.

2: the Community Response Team focus their efforts on the park that is reported as "unsafe" for young children to play in...maybe over a resonable time period eg: between 3.30-4pm and 7pm.

Oh, and BTW: my kids... now teenagers, often played ball games in our garden (as do our neighbours young kids now) footballs etc do go astray..and YES! kids climb over garden fences to retrieve them, but rarely any ACTUAL damage done!!
Possible solutions to this issue: 1: remove the large shrubs from the communal garden and return to grass. 2: the Community Response Team focus their efforts on the park that is reported as "unsafe" for young children to play in...maybe over a resonable time period eg: between 3.30-4pm and 7pm. Oh, and BTW: my kids... now teenagers, often played ball games in our garden (as do our neighbours young kids now) footballs etc do go astray..and YES! kids climb over garden fences to retrieve them, but rarely any ACTUAL damage done!! cuckoo
  • Score: -2

10:47pm Wed 18 Jul 12

BackontheMainland says...

As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue.

Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option.

If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....?

I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.
As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue. Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option. If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....? I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers. BackontheMainland
  • Score: -1

7:23am Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

BackontheMainland wrote:
As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue.

Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option.

If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....?

I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.
"I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers."..........
.........what difference does it make whether we're mothers or fathers?
[quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue. Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option. If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....? I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.[/p][/quote]"I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.".......... .........what difference does it make whether we're mothers or fathers? Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 6

9:32am Thu 19 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

Andrew:Oxford wrote:
kaydensmummy wrote:
Andrew:Oxford wrote:
noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising
The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do.

Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time.

It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball

As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.
why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!!
You know, I'm mentally reading your comment with the voice of Ms Pollard.

It's quite uncanny.

I would point out that, according to the story, the children aren't playing in a garden, but in a patch of land not far from their home - that clearly was causing their neighbours some distress.
yeah but no but yeah but no see what happened is the kids lost their garden and now we are trying to get it back for them !!! that ms pollard enough 4 you???? !!! and has noone realised even if the parents could take the children to the park their is a 18 month old toddler too !!! all you assume is that these people sit about all day well no they dont but they havent got the time to take the children to an unsafe park every day as they have lives too,think you should all back off unless you know the true facts !!!
[quote][p][bold]Andrew:Oxford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew:Oxford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising[/p][/quote]The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do. Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time. It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.[/p][/quote]why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!![/p][/quote]You know, I'm mentally reading your comment with the voice of Ms Pollard. It's quite uncanny. I would point out that, according to the story, the children aren't playing in a garden, but in a patch of land not far from their home - that clearly was causing their neighbours some distress.[/p][/quote]yeah but no but yeah but no see what happened is the kids lost their garden and now we are trying to get it back for them !!! that ms pollard enough 4 you???? !!! and has noone realised even if the parents could take the children to the park their is a 18 month old toddler too !!! all you assume is that these people sit about all day well no they dont but they havent got the time to take the children to an unsafe park every day as they have lives too,think you should all back off unless you know the true facts !!! kaydensmummy
  • Score: -16

10:37am Thu 19 Jul 12

BackontheMainland says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
BackontheMainland wrote:
As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue.

Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option.

If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....?

I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.
"I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers."..........
.........what difference does it make whether we're mothers or fathers?
Because generally Mothers are the main carers of children and carry out the majority of household chores. Mothers are also mainly the parent left with the care of their children if the relationship breaks down.

Maybe you personally wore a pinny, vacuumed and waved your feather duster; cooked hearty meals and cakes; wiped noses and bottoms and had primary care of your children as a Father, but you would be in the minority.
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue. Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option. If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....? I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.[/p][/quote]"I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.".......... .........what difference does it make whether we're mothers or fathers?[/p][/quote]Because generally Mothers are the main carers of children and carry out the majority of household chores. Mothers are also mainly the parent left with the care of their children if the relationship breaks down. Maybe you personally wore a pinny, vacuumed and waved your feather duster; cooked hearty meals and cakes; wiped noses and bottoms and had primary care of your children as a Father, but you would be in the minority. BackontheMainland
  • Score: -9

10:39am Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
Andrew:Oxford wrote:
kaydensmummy wrote:
Andrew:Oxford wrote:
noodles78 wrote:
in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising
The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do.

Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time.

It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball

As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.
why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!!
You know, I'm mentally reading your comment with the voice of Ms Pollard.

It's quite uncanny.

I would point out that, according to the story, the children aren't playing in a garden, but in a patch of land not far from their home - that clearly was causing their neighbours some distress.
yeah but no but yeah but no see what happened is the kids lost their garden and now we are trying to get it back for them !!! that ms pollard enough 4 you???? !!! and has noone realised even if the parents could take the children to the park their is a 18 month old toddler too !!! all you assume is that these people sit about all day well no they dont but they havent got the time to take the children to an unsafe park every day as they have lives too,think you should all back off unless you know the true facts !!!
"has no one realised even if the parents could take the children to the park their is a 18 month old toddler too".......and your point is?
"all you assume is that these people sit about all day well no they dont but they havent got the time to take the children to an unsafe park every day as they have lives too".........Nobody has suggested all the parents take all the kids every day, and I can't begin to imagine what those parents that aren't employed do at home that leaves them so little time, and as for your comment "as they have lives too", I didn't realise children had become disposable items, I've always considered mine to be an integral part of my life, even though they're not here.
"think you should all back off unless you know the true facts !!!"........
.........go on then, enlighten us...
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew:Oxford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew:Oxford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: in response to u andrew 2 of the adults in the picture work full time and the other 2 have medical problems so please explain how u think they would be able to spend hours over the park supervising[/p][/quote]The same way that hundreds of other adults across the country that work full time do. Some people, to give credit to one of the Leys former local councillors, work full time *and* organise a local running & athletic groups in their spare time. It's not hard work to take your son, daughter, niece, nephew and a few friends/neighbours to a park with a ball As to medical problems. You'll have to explain further what the medical problems are. Just watching the trailers for the Paralympics, I'm in awe at what people can stretch themselves to do despite their bodies.[/p][/quote]why should people have to explain things to people they dont know ??? do u have kids?? if so do they have a garden to play in if they do then shut up !!! these kids have nowhere to play and shouldnt be forced to go to a park when theres a perfectly good garden for them 2 play in although thats been taken away from them too !!![/p][/quote]You know, I'm mentally reading your comment with the voice of Ms Pollard. It's quite uncanny. I would point out that, according to the story, the children aren't playing in a garden, but in a patch of land not far from their home - that clearly was causing their neighbours some distress.[/p][/quote]yeah but no but yeah but no see what happened is the kids lost their garden and now we are trying to get it back for them !!! that ms pollard enough 4 you???? !!! and has noone realised even if the parents could take the children to the park their is a 18 month old toddler too !!! all you assume is that these people sit about all day well no they dont but they havent got the time to take the children to an unsafe park every day as they have lives too,think you should all back off unless you know the true facts !!![/p][/quote]"has no one realised even if the parents could take the children to the park their is a 18 month old toddler too".......and your point is? "all you assume is that these people sit about all day well no they dont but they havent got the time to take the children to an unsafe park every day as they have lives too".........Nobody has suggested all the parents take all the kids every day, and I can't begin to imagine what those parents that aren't employed do at home that leaves them so little time, and as for your comment "as they have lives too", I didn't realise children had become disposable items, I've always considered mine to be an integral part of my life, even though they're not here. "think you should all back off unless you know the true facts !!!"........ .........go on then, enlighten us... Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 7

10:49am Thu 19 Jul 12

BackontheMainland says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.
and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.[/p][/quote]and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks BackontheMainland
  • Score: 0

11:05am Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.
and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks
"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.
[quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.[/p][/quote]and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks[/p][/quote]"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 5

12:28pm Thu 19 Jul 12

BackontheMainland says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.
and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks
"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.
Go on then, enlighten us...
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.[/p][/quote]and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks[/p][/quote]"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.[/p][/quote]Go on then, enlighten us... BackontheMainland
  • Score: -7

12:51pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.
and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks
"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.
Go on then, enlighten us...
Foxtrot Oscar.
[quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.[/p][/quote]and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks[/p][/quote]"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.[/p][/quote]Go on then, enlighten us...[/p][/quote]Foxtrot Oscar. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 9

12:58pm Thu 19 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

yeah come on dilligaf enlighten us because you want to know what they do all day so now u tell us what u do all day !!! everyday when i check the oxfordmail website youve always had to comment so obviously all you do is sit on your fat lazy bone idol **** !!! yeah kids are a main part of our lives but just because we have kids doesnt mean we arent aloud a life you idiot !! some of us those who are part of this protest go to college or work or do courses you know !!! so unless you know these people then i would suggest you keep your gob sealed
yeah come on dilligaf enlighten us because you want to know what they do all day so now u tell us what u do all day !!! everyday when i check the oxfordmail website youve always had to comment so obviously all you do is sit on your fat lazy bone idol **** !!! yeah kids are a main part of our lives but just because we have kids doesnt mean we arent aloud a life you idiot !! some of us those who are part of this protest go to college or work or do courses you know !!! so unless you know these people then i would suggest you keep your gob sealed kaydensmummy
  • Score: -17

1:07pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

When i was a child, i used to play in the garden at home, or i would go to the park. My parents wouldnt allow me to play football outside others houses as its annoying to them.

I dont have kids myself, but if i did, i would encourage the same behaviour. Play in the garden or go to the park. I definatly wouldnt go crying to the press because they wernt allowed to use land next to a neighbours house.

Seriously, parents of these kids, get a grip. Take the children to the park if it isnt safe for them to go alone. If that is to much effort for you, maybe you should consider moving somewhere that has a garden?

I understand kids need to play etc, but adults who have had a hard day at work need time to destress and relax in the comfort of their own homes, instead of being wound up by some chav kids!

A close isnt designed for football, its designed to live in. Parks are designed to play in. Simple!
When i was a child, i used to play in the garden at home, or i would go to the park. My parents wouldnt allow me to play football outside others houses as its annoying to them. I dont have kids myself, but if i did, i would encourage the same behaviour. Play in the garden or go to the park. I definatly wouldnt go crying to the press because they wernt allowed to use land next to a neighbours house. Seriously, parents of these kids, get a grip. Take the children to the park if it isnt safe for them to go alone. If that is to much effort for you, maybe you should consider moving somewhere that has a garden? I understand kids need to play etc, but adults who have had a hard day at work need time to destress and relax in the comfort of their own homes, instead of being wound up by some chav kids! A close isnt designed for football, its designed to live in. Parks are designed to play in. Simple! Doctor69
  • Score: 12

1:10pm Thu 19 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

the thing is they have a garden well did have till it got taken away from them and shrubs got placed there all because yet again the old people went complaining !!! even tho that garden is for the first floor masonettes !!!
the thing is they have a garden well did have till it got taken away from them and shrubs got placed there all because yet again the old people went complaining !!! even tho that garden is for the first floor masonettes !!! kaydensmummy
  • Score: -17

1:11pm Thu 19 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

and how can you call them chav kids anyway do u know them ummmm NO !!!! i can tell you now not every young person is a chav you know
and how can you call them chav kids anyway do u know them ummmm NO !!!! i can tell you now not every young person is a chav you know kaydensmummy
  • Score: -15

1:22pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

I dont know them, but they are terrorising the local residents. Therefore i would call them chavs - and if you are one of the mums, you should get outside and do something with them....rather than sitting on here arguing the toss with me!

I will say it agin, if they were my kids i would take them down the park and play with them, not encourage them to cry to the press 'we are so hard done by' blah blah.

As for the garden which now has shrubs, maybe the older generation prefer it that way? You have a park, use it and stop crying.
I dont know them, but they are terrorising the local residents. Therefore i would call them chavs - and if you are one of the mums, you should get outside and do something with them....rather than sitting on here arguing the toss with me! I will say it agin, if they were my kids i would take them down the park and play with them, not encourage them to cry to the press 'we are so hard done by' blah blah. As for the garden which now has shrubs, maybe the older generation prefer it that way? You have a park, use it and stop crying. Doctor69
  • Score: 13

1:31pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

i am one of the mums involved! that garden out the back was meant to be for the people in the first floor, which may i add are 3 bedroomed places, the people moaning are older generation as they have housed families in a place were there are more oldies than families, our point is y should we take them to park when the garden is for us! yes im tryin to move to somewhere with a garden and not because i cant be bothered but because i believe children should be allowed to play freely and safely n that includes my 18 month old, which may i add because of this letter we had even he is not allowed to have a ball to play with, do u think thats fair??????? i personally dont and im gonna say once more

YOU HAD A CHILDHOOD
YOUR KIDS HAD THEIRS
NOW LET OUR KIDS TOO!!!!!

or is it that i should be lettin them out on streets to rob people n nick cars, or maybe they should be cooped up indoors playin on computers and never havin any exercise, u seem to know everythin so maybe u can give me the answer hey
i am one of the mums involved! that garden out the back was meant to be for the people in the first floor, which may i add are 3 bedroomed places, the people moaning are older generation as they have housed families in a place were there are more oldies than families, our point is y should we take them to park when the garden is for us! yes im tryin to move to somewhere with a garden and not because i cant be bothered but because i believe children should be allowed to play freely and safely n that includes my 18 month old, which may i add because of this letter we had even he is not allowed to have a ball to play with, do u think thats fair??????? i personally dont and im gonna say once more YOU HAD A CHILDHOOD YOUR KIDS HAD THEIRS NOW LET OUR KIDS TOO!!!!! or is it that i should be lettin them out on streets to rob people n nick cars, or maybe they should be cooped up indoors playin on computers and never havin any exercise, u seem to know everythin so maybe u can give me the answer hey noodles78
  • Score: -14

1:34pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

How about, dont have kids and then rely on the council to home you?
How about, dont have kids and then rely on the council to home you? Doctor69
  • Score: 17

1:36pm Thu 19 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

no im not one of the mums but im very good friends with the families !!! why should they be forced out there own garden by some oap's !!!! sod it let them play computer games all day or go cause trouble out on the street then call them chavs but no they are simply playing a sport which alot of people moan "doctors" included that children dont play alot of sport these children are simply keeping fit and enjoying themselves at the same time or should i say trying to !!!!
no im not one of the mums but im very good friends with the families !!! why should they be forced out there own garden by some oap's !!!! sod it let them play computer games all day or go cause trouble out on the street then call them chavs but no they are simply playing a sport which alot of people moan "doctors" included that children dont play alot of sport these children are simply keeping fit and enjoying themselves at the same time or should i say trying to !!!! kaydensmummy
  • Score: -16

1:38pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

is that right hey, well for ur information i have 3 very well mannered little boys who have had enough rubbish in their lives and now just want a chance to play, where exactly is the harm in that, as for everyone sayin about the bit of green out front, the kids moved over to their when the garden was taken away, not one car or window or hedge or fence has been damaged in the time i have lived here and i doubt it will ever happen but y should we make them go to a place with druggies and the like when they have a perfectly good garden out the back which they are not allowed to use!!!!!!!
is that right hey, well for ur information i have 3 very well mannered little boys who have had enough rubbish in their lives and now just want a chance to play, where exactly is the harm in that, as for everyone sayin about the bit of green out front, the kids moved over to their when the garden was taken away, not one car or window or hedge or fence has been damaged in the time i have lived here and i doubt it will ever happen but y should we make them go to a place with druggies and the like when they have a perfectly good garden out the back which they are not allowed to use!!!!!!! noodles78
  • Score: -14

1:38pm Thu 19 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

haha ok then not everyone can afford to live in private accomodation because they have families to provide for !!!! when you have kids you will realise that well thats if you ever have any because to be honest anyone that has kids with you i personally feel sorry for !!
haha ok then not everyone can afford to live in private accomodation because they have families to provide for !!!! when you have kids you will realise that well thats if you ever have any because to be honest anyone that has kids with you i personally feel sorry for !! kaydensmummy
  • Score: -20

1:45pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

' that garden out the back was meant to be for the people in the first floor'

Prove it. Have you access to view the deeds for the property?

'where exactly is the harm in that?'

In that they are causing an anti-social disturbance to the other residents and trepassing on their property to retrieve balls etc.
' that garden out the back was meant to be for the people in the first floor' Prove it. Have you access to view the deeds for the property? 'where exactly is the harm in that?' In that they are causing an anti-social disturbance to the other residents and trepassing on their property to retrieve balls etc. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 11

1:46pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
yeah come on dilligaf enlighten us because you want to know what they do all day so now u tell us what u do all day !!! everyday when i check the oxfordmail website youve always had to comment so obviously all you do is sit on your fat lazy bone idol **** !!! yeah kids are a main part of our lives but just because we have kids doesnt mean we arent aloud a life you idiot !! some of us those who are part of this protest go to college or work or do courses you know !!! so unless you know these people then i would suggest you keep your gob sealed
I'm not a parent saying they have no time to take their kids to the park.
I have plenty of time to cook, clean, wash and iron, something I also did when my kids were at home, and as it happens at the time I was in full time employment, as was my wife, and I had never had a day out of work from the age of 16.
Yes I spend a lot of time on my computer, it's how I keep in touch with the outside world, I'm being treated for severe clinical depression and anxiety, one of the issues of my illness is paranoia and a mistrust of people, so crowds and enclosed spaces with unfamiliar people are something I avoid.
Once I feel I'm mentally strong enough to return to work, I will in a heartbeat, believe me, even though there's little I can do about it at the moment, I feel guilty about living on benefits, even though I've paid probably about £200k in tax and national insurance payments during my working life.
As for calling me an idiot because you think I said you're not entitled to a life, I never said that, I merely stated that children are an integral part of our lives, we can't choose when to incorporate them.
I'm quite aware that some of the parents aren't there all the time, but neither are the kids, and when the kids are there, not all the parents aren't, you're part of a community you should help each other.
I'm guessing you're not one of the ones that works, or goes to college, because you appear to have plenty of time to post on here too.
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: yeah come on dilligaf enlighten us because you want to know what they do all day so now u tell us what u do all day !!! everyday when i check the oxfordmail website youve always had to comment so obviously all you do is sit on your fat lazy bone idol **** !!! yeah kids are a main part of our lives but just because we have kids doesnt mean we arent aloud a life you idiot !! some of us those who are part of this protest go to college or work or do courses you know !!! so unless you know these people then i would suggest you keep your gob sealed[/p][/quote]I'm not a parent saying they have no time to take their kids to the park. I have plenty of time to cook, clean, wash and iron, something I also did when my kids were at home, and as it happens at the time I was in full time employment, as was my wife, and I had never had a day out of work from the age of 16. Yes I spend a lot of time on my computer, it's how I keep in touch with the outside world, I'm being treated for severe clinical depression and anxiety, one of the issues of my illness is paranoia and a mistrust of people, so crowds and enclosed spaces with unfamiliar people are something I avoid. Once I feel I'm mentally strong enough to return to work, I will in a heartbeat, believe me, even though there's little I can do about it at the moment, I feel guilty about living on benefits, even though I've paid probably about £200k in tax and national insurance payments during my working life. As for calling me an idiot because you think I said you're not entitled to a life, I never said that, I merely stated that children are an integral part of our lives, we can't choose when to incorporate them. I'm quite aware that some of the parents aren't there all the time, but neither are the kids, and when the kids are there, not all the parents aren't, you're part of a community you should help each other. I'm guessing you're not one of the ones that works, or goes to college, because you appear to have plenty of time to post on here too. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 10

1:50pm Thu 19 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

nonny mouse im guessing your one of the old battle axes that keep complaining !!!! if you have a problem say it to anyone of our faces dont hide behind a computer screen ok,the kids want to be able to live their lives no kid should have to be locked up inside or forced out there own area !!!! and no i dont care if you dont like what i say because its the truth
nonny mouse im guessing your one of the old battle axes that keep complaining !!!! if you have a problem say it to anyone of our faces dont hide behind a computer screen ok,the kids want to be able to live their lives no kid should have to be locked up inside or forced out there own area !!!! and no i dont care if you dont like what i say because its the truth kaydensmummy
  • Score: -16

1:52pm Thu 19 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

ill have you know dilligaf im starting college in september when the new term starts as my son has only just turnt 1 so no i didnt work when he was a baby as i wanted to spend as much time as i could with him plus hes been in an out of hospital not that i should have to explain myself to you :-) so there you go theres the reason i dont work at the moment
ill have you know dilligaf im starting college in september when the new term starts as my son has only just turnt 1 so no i didnt work when he was a baby as i wanted to spend as much time as i could with him plus hes been in an out of hospital not that i should have to explain myself to you :-) so there you go theres the reason i dont work at the moment kaydensmummy
  • Score: -15

1:54pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

we have been told by the council the garden was for 1st floor use and if people were to open their doors to the kids they wouldnt be trespassin, even if it was to say no sorry u cant have ur ball back and that u will return the ball when u r ready!!!!! instead people go complainin to council, not speakin to the parents and askin them to talk to the children, no u cant do that, u run to the council and police and pop their footballs!!!! WHICH MAY I ADD IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE
we have been told by the council the garden was for 1st floor use and if people were to open their doors to the kids they wouldnt be trespassin, even if it was to say no sorry u cant have ur ball back and that u will return the ball when u r ready!!!!! instead people go complainin to council, not speakin to the parents and askin them to talk to the children, no u cant do that, u run to the council and police and pop their footballs!!!! WHICH MAY I ADD IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE noodles78
  • Score: -16

1:54pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

I work full time, have done since i was 16, I'm now 31. I live in a house i have bought with my girlfriend. We work hard to pay the bills and mortgage. The reason we havent had children yet is due to money.

You on the other hand appear to have done things differently. Oh i have 3 children...i cant afford to buy a home, council please give me a house.

You are in a fortunate position to have housing provided for you, something i have never had the opportunity to be given. Stop moaning, or get a job, save some money and move. Stop sponging off of society and upsetting the neighbours!
I work full time, have done since i was 16, I'm now 31. I live in a house i have bought with my girlfriend. We work hard to pay the bills and mortgage. The reason we havent had children yet is due to money. You on the other hand appear to have done things differently. Oh i have 3 children...i cant afford to buy a home, council please give me a house. You are in a fortunate position to have housing provided for you, something i have never had the opportunity to be given. Stop moaning, or get a job, save some money and move. Stop sponging off of society and upsetting the neighbours! Doctor69
  • Score: 16

1:55pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
BackontheMainland wrote:
As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue.

Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option.

If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....?

I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.
"I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers."..........
.........what difference does it make whether we're mothers or fathers?
Because generally Mothers are the main carers of children and carry out the majority of household chores. Mothers are also mainly the parent left with the care of their children if the relationship breaks down.

Maybe you personally wore a pinny, vacuumed and waved your feather duster; cooked hearty meals and cakes; wiped noses and bottoms and had primary care of your children as a Father, but you would be in the minority.
I never wore a pinny, but as my wife worked days, and I worked shifts, we shared responsibility, I'm perfectly capable of cooking for 14, washing, ironing, and all the rest of the household responsibilities, and took great pleasure in looking after my kids, no matter what time of day, or night.
[quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: As long as the council/housing association house people in rabbit hutches without any private outside place these problems will continue. Yes in our day we could go off to the park taking a sandwich and drink and play safely all day. Then again we had Park Keepers who ran them. These days we have gangs and druggies running them. Our parks aren't safe anymore and I, as an adult, wouldn't take my child to many of the smaller ones. We drive to Buryknowle or Cutteslowe where they are family friendly and safe. Not everyone has this option. If you're working all day and have to accompany your children for hours at the park, just when do you get the time to cook a healthy meal, clean the house, wash and iron clothes....? I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.[/p][/quote]"I think a lot of the negative comments on here definitely don't come from Mothers.".......... .........what difference does it make whether we're mothers or fathers?[/p][/quote]Because generally Mothers are the main carers of children and carry out the majority of household chores. Mothers are also mainly the parent left with the care of their children if the relationship breaks down. Maybe you personally wore a pinny, vacuumed and waved your feather duster; cooked hearty meals and cakes; wiped noses and bottoms and had primary care of your children as a Father, but you would be in the minority.[/p][/quote]I never wore a pinny, but as my wife worked days, and I worked shifts, we shared responsibility, I'm perfectly capable of cooking for 14, washing, ironing, and all the rest of the household responsibilities, and took great pleasure in looking after my kids, no matter what time of day, or night. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 7

1:55pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

Also, have some respect for the elderly.
Also, have some respect for the elderly. Doctor69
  • Score: 10

1:58pm Thu 19 Jul 12

BackontheMainland says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.
and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks
"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.
Go on then, enlighten us...
Foxtrot Oscar.
Resorting to foul language, surely a sign of ignorance tut! tut! So you can judge their disabilities so long as nobody judges yours.
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.[/p][/quote]and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks[/p][/quote]"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.[/p][/quote]Go on then, enlighten us...[/p][/quote]Foxtrot Oscar.[/p][/quote]Resorting to foul language, surely a sign of ignorance tut! tut! So you can judge their disabilities so long as nobody judges yours. BackontheMainland
  • Score: -5

2:00pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

have some respect for the elderly!!!!! dont make me laugh, u tell me y these kids should show respect to someone who opens their door and says stop kickin ur f****ng football in my garden and im phonin the f****ng council about u, answer that cos when i was younger i was taught to show respect to people who gave u respect!
have some respect for the elderly!!!!! dont make me laugh, u tell me y these kids should show respect to someone who opens their door and says stop kickin ur f****ng football in my garden and im phonin the f****ng council about u, answer that cos when i was younger i was taught to show respect to people who gave u respect! noodles78
  • Score: -16

2:00pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

noodles78, I'm guessing you're one of those seen in the photo then?
noodles78, I'm guessing you're one of those seen in the photo then? Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 4

2:03pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

did u ever learn to read because im sure it says a few comments ago that yes i am and i will fight for my kids to have a safe place to play no matter what, i seriously think people who are puttin negative comments should come to the close and speak to the kids and parents and then maybe they would see for themselves these kids arent actually that bad its just the way they have been made out to be
did u ever learn to read because im sure it says a few comments ago that yes i am and i will fight for my kids to have a safe place to play no matter what, i seriously think people who are puttin negative comments should come to the close and speak to the kids and parents and then maybe they would see for themselves these kids arent actually that bad its just the way they have been made out to be noodles78
  • Score: -16

2:12pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

Doctor69 wrote:
I work full time, have done since i was 16, I'm now 31. I live in a house i have bought with my girlfriend. We work hard to pay the bills and mortgage. The reason we havent had children yet is due to money.

You on the other hand appear to have done things differently. Oh i have 3 children...i cant afford to buy a home, council please give me a house.

You are in a fortunate position to have housing provided for you, something i have never had the opportunity to be given. Stop moaning, or get a job, save some money and move. Stop sponging off of society and upsetting the neighbours!
i also worked from 16 and due to havin kids and illness i have not worked since the age of 24, i'm now 33 and would give anything to go to work but my illnesses prevent that from happening, i would love to own my house but never gonna happen, i don't see why people like myself should be made to feel worthless and useless by people like u, never judge a book by its cover!
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: I work full time, have done since i was 16, I'm now 31. I live in a house i have bought with my girlfriend. We work hard to pay the bills and mortgage. The reason we havent had children yet is due to money. You on the other hand appear to have done things differently. Oh i have 3 children...i cant afford to buy a home, council please give me a house. You are in a fortunate position to have housing provided for you, something i have never had the opportunity to be given. Stop moaning, or get a job, save some money and move. Stop sponging off of society and upsetting the neighbours![/p][/quote]i also worked from 16 and due to havin kids and illness i have not worked since the age of 24, i'm now 33 and would give anything to go to work but my illnesses prevent that from happening, i would love to own my house but never gonna happen, i don't see why people like myself should be made to feel worthless and useless by people like u, never judge a book by its cover! noodles78
  • Score: -15

2:17pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

It isn’t acceptable to swear at kids like that, but I bet the kids aren’t little angels either!
I like the way you conveniently overlooked my comments regarding hard work to buy a home.

Is it time for Jeremy Kyle yet??
It isn’t acceptable to swear at kids like that, but I bet the kids aren’t little angels either! I like the way you conveniently overlooked my comments regarding hard work to buy a home. Is it time for Jeremy Kyle yet?? Doctor69
  • Score: 17

2:18pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

noodles78 wrote:
did u ever learn to read because im sure it says a few comments ago that yes i am and i will fight for my kids to have a safe place to play no matter what, i seriously think people who are puttin negative comments should come to the close and speak to the kids and parents and then maybe they would see for themselves these kids arent actually that bad its just the way they have been made out to be
Yes I did learn to read, that's why I asked if you were one of those in the photo, after you'd stated you were one of those involved, there's a difference.
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: did u ever learn to read because im sure it says a few comments ago that yes i am and i will fight for my kids to have a safe place to play no matter what, i seriously think people who are puttin negative comments should come to the close and speak to the kids and parents and then maybe they would see for themselves these kids arent actually that bad its just the way they have been made out to be[/p][/quote]Yes I did learn to read, that's why I asked if you were one of those in the photo, after you'd stated you were one of those involved, there's a difference. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 6

2:19pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
BackontheMainland wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.
and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks
"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.
Go on then, enlighten us...
Foxtrot Oscar.
Resorting to foul language, surely a sign of ignorance tut! tut! So you can judge their disabilities so long as nobody judges yours.
I'm not a parent saying they can't go down to the park with their kids, due to "medical" conditions, so my current situation has nothing to do with it.
[quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: But those adults with "medical" problems appear to have managed to get out of their homes for the photograph to be taken, so their conditions don't render them immobile.[/p][/quote]and perhaps you Dilligaf2010 too could come off your sickness benefit and get a job typing on a computer as your condition doesn't seem to stop you posting endlessly on here... Pot - Kettle methinks[/p][/quote]"Pot - Kettle methinks"......not at all, completely different scenario.[/p][/quote]Go on then, enlighten us...[/p][/quote]Foxtrot Oscar.[/p][/quote]Resorting to foul language, surely a sign of ignorance tut! tut! So you can judge their disabilities so long as nobody judges yours.[/p][/quote]I'm not a parent saying they can't go down to the park with their kids, due to "medical" conditions, so my current situation has nothing to do with it. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 4

2:28pm Thu 19 Jul 12

BackontheMainland says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
nonny mouse im guessing your one of the old battle axes that keep complaining !!!! if you have a problem say it to anyone of our faces dont hide behind a computer screen ok,the kids want to be able to live their lives no kid should have to be locked up inside or forced out there own area !!!! and no i dont care if you dont like what i say because its the truth
nonny mouse is employed by the council, but in his/her own words "is too well ensconced" and so has liberty to post on here during paid work time.
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: nonny mouse im guessing your one of the old battle axes that keep complaining !!!! if you have a problem say it to anyone of our faces dont hide behind a computer screen ok,the kids want to be able to live their lives no kid should have to be locked up inside or forced out there own area !!!! and no i dont care if you dont like what i say because its the truth[/p][/quote]nonny mouse is employed by the council, but in his/her own words "is too well ensconced" and so has liberty to post on here during paid work time. BackontheMainland
  • Score: -2

2:34pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

'kids want to be able to live their lives no kid should have to be locked up inside or forced out there own area !!!!'

No one is stopping/forcing anything. The public services are available (The park) but you refuse to use them because of bone idleness. The only

'and no i dont care if you dont like what i say because its the truthreason they are addled with drug dealers is because no-one goes there!'

Well argued, case closed.

'if people were to open their doors to the kids they wouldnt be trespassin'

So, you are putting the responsibility of your children's behaviour onto complete strangers? How noble.

'u run to the council and police and pop their footballs!!!! WHICH MAY I ADD IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE'

Possession is 9/10ths of the law. If said ball is on their property, doesn't it make it their ball to do what they please with?
'kids want to be able to live their lives no kid should have to be locked up inside or forced out there own area !!!!' No one is stopping/forcing anything. The public services are available (The park) but you refuse to use them because of bone idleness. The only 'and no i dont care if you dont like what i say because its the truthreason they are addled with drug dealers is because no-one goes there!' Well argued, case closed. 'if people were to open their doors to the kids they wouldnt be trespassin' So, you are putting the responsibility of your children's behaviour onto complete strangers? How noble. 'u run to the council and police and pop their footballs!!!! WHICH MAY I ADD IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE' Possession is 9/10ths of the law. If said ball is on their property, doesn't it make it their ball to do what they please with? ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 4

2:37pm Thu 19 Jul 12

A34North says...

Ah the ability to have children and then lose all respect, courtesy and responsibility for others in that wonderful me, me, me world.
Ah the ability to have children and then lose all respect, courtesy and responsibility for others in that wonderful me, me, me world. A34North
  • Score: 16

2:42pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

Feel i need to highlight this quote again as i find it troubling:

'if people were to open their doors to the kids they wouldnt be trespassin'

That's like a mugger saying 'If people were to give me thier phones and wallets, i wouldn't have to maim them and steal from them' is it not?

Good parenting.
Feel i need to highlight this quote again as i find it troubling: 'if people were to open their doors to the kids they wouldnt be trespassin' That's like a mugger saying 'If people were to give me thier phones and wallets, i wouldn't have to maim them and steal from them' is it not? Good parenting. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 10

2:43pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

Dont think this article has gone the way the parents hoped!
Dont think this article has gone the way the parents hoped! Doctor69
  • Score: 18

2:44pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

posession is meant to be but as advised by police popping a ball that has gone into a garden is a criminal offence and is a reportable offence, and how is it puttin responsibility onto strangers its merely sayin that if people opened doors and spoke to the kids they wouldnt just feel the need to jump walls n get it without asking, the thing is furlong close is quite big and there are a number of families in other parts of the close who kids came up to the green to play but none of them got letters just the kids in maisonettes, where is the fairness in that
posession is meant to be but as advised by police popping a ball that has gone into a garden is a criminal offence and is a reportable offence, and how is it puttin responsibility onto strangers its merely sayin that if people opened doors and spoke to the kids they wouldnt just feel the need to jump walls n get it without asking, the thing is furlong close is quite big and there are a number of families in other parts of the close who kids came up to the green to play but none of them got letters just the kids in maisonettes, where is the fairness in that noodles78
  • Score: -14

2:46pm Thu 19 Jul 12

BackontheMainland says...

Doctor69 wrote:
Also, have some respect for the elderly.
But these are just older versions of the council tenants who have children and were given a council home, whom you seem to condemn as spongers. So in your scenario these older generation should have gone back to work and bought their own homes once their children had grown up.
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: Also, have some respect for the elderly.[/p][/quote]But these are just older versions of the council tenants who have children and were given a council home, whom you seem to condemn as spongers. So in your scenario these older generation should have gone back to work and bought their own homes once their children had grown up. BackontheMainland
  • Score: 3

2:47pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

the aim of the article was to get the kids their garden back!!!!!! and the right to play safely in the vicinity of their own house!!!!!!!!!!
the aim of the article was to get the kids their garden back!!!!!! and the right to play safely in the vicinity of their own house!!!!!!!!!! noodles78
  • Score: -15

2:52pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
Feel i need to highlight this quote again as i find it troubling:

'if people were to open their doors to the kids they wouldnt be trespassin'

That's like a mugger saying 'If people were to give me thier phones and wallets, i wouldn't have to maim them and steal from them' is it not?

Good parenting.
no, what i mean is instead of always being against the kids try workin with them to find a more suitable solution, they are all pretty good kids but get angered but the negativity of everyone around them who were once kids themselves
[quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: Feel i need to highlight this quote again as i find it troubling: 'if people were to open their doors to the kids they wouldnt be trespassin' That's like a mugger saying 'If people were to give me thier phones and wallets, i wouldn't have to maim them and steal from them' is it not? Good parenting.[/p][/quote]no, what i mean is instead of always being against the kids try workin with them to find a more suitable solution, they are all pretty good kids but get angered but the negativity of everyone around them who were once kids themselves noodles78
  • Score: -14

3:00pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

I'm sure that is the case, but do you know what my dear old parents would have told me?

'Stop bothering those poor old people and go and play in the park'
I'm sure that is the case, but do you know what my dear old parents would have told me? 'Stop bothering those poor old people and go and play in the park' ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 7

3:04pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

yeah back in my younger days u could have done that, but this day in age when there is stabbings, snatching, drug dealing etc, its not safe and this is y we want the garden back
yeah back in my younger days u could have done that, but this day in age when there is stabbings, snatching, drug dealing etc, its not safe and this is y we want the garden back noodles78
  • Score: -14

3:15pm Thu 19 Jul 12

BackontheMainland says...

Doctor69 wrote:
It isn’t acceptable to swear at kids like that, but I bet the kids aren’t little angels either!
I like the way you conveniently overlooked my comments regarding hard work to buy a home.

Is it time for Jeremy Kyle yet??
Is it time for you to do some 'hard work' yet? Or are you yet another employee stealing your paid time to post your pompous comments on websites? Hope they don't catch you as it's a sackable offence, and then how would you pay your mortgage?
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: It isn’t acceptable to swear at kids like that, but I bet the kids aren’t little angels either! I like the way you conveniently overlooked my comments regarding hard work to buy a home. Is it time for Jeremy Kyle yet??[/p][/quote]Is it time for you to do some 'hard work' yet? Or are you yet another employee stealing your paid time to post your pompous comments on websites? Hope they don't catch you as it's a sackable offence, and then how would you pay your mortgage? BackontheMainland
  • Score: -4

3:22pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

And there wasn't crime etc when you were young?

Of course there was, you just didn't know about it because it wasn't widely reported. The only reason there is statistically more crime is that there are more people.

I think you would find that if you and another parent for example were to take a group of children to the park for an hours kick about, no one would stab you. No one would snatch your bag. No one would try and sell you drugs.

The only illness you have is believing the scaremongering tattle in the local rags. People, on the whole, are nice. People, on the whole, stop being nice when other people take the p*ss such as causing anti-social disturbances directly outside their front doors.
And there wasn't crime etc when you were young? Of course there was, you just didn't know about it because it wasn't widely reported. The only reason there is statistically more crime is that there are more people. I think you would find that if you and another parent for example were to take a group of children to the park for an hours kick about, no one would stab you. No one would snatch your bag. No one would try and sell you drugs. The only illness you have is believing the scaremongering tattle in the local rags. People, on the whole, are nice. People, on the whole, stop being nice when other people take the p*ss such as causing anti-social disturbances directly outside their front doors. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 9

3:30pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

And for the record, you have no rights for your children to be able to play football within a specific radius of your home. Your neighbours however DO have the right of 'quiet enjoyment' in their homes.

I think you are fighting a losing battle here. You have tried to force the council's hand by rallying public support for your cause but as you can see from the response, you have very little.
And for the record, you have no rights for your children to be able to play football within a specific radius of your home. Your neighbours however DO have the right of 'quiet enjoyment' in their homes. I think you are fighting a losing battle here. You have tried to force the council's hand by rallying public support for your cause but as you can see from the response, you have very little. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 7

3:37pm Thu 19 Jul 12

BackontheMainland says...

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
And for the record, you have no rights for your children to be able to play football within a specific radius of your home. Your neighbours however DO have the right of 'quiet enjoyment' in their homes.

I think you are fighting a losing battle here. You have tried to force the council's hand by rallying public support for your cause but as you can see from the response, you have very little.
And you, as a council employee, have no right to squander the money I pay in taxes by using your employed time to post your biased pro council views on this website!
[quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: And for the record, you have no rights for your children to be able to play football within a specific radius of your home. Your neighbours however DO have the right of 'quiet enjoyment' in their homes. I think you are fighting a losing battle here. You have tried to force the council's hand by rallying public support for your cause but as you can see from the response, you have very little.[/p][/quote]And you, as a council employee, have no right to squander the money I pay in taxes by using your employed time to post your biased pro council views on this website! BackontheMainland
  • Score: -3

3:40pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

BackontheMainland wrote:
Doctor69 wrote:
It isn’t acceptable to swear at kids like that, but I bet the kids aren’t little angels either!
I like the way you conveniently overlooked my comments regarding hard work to buy a home.

Is it time for Jeremy Kyle yet??
Is it time for you to do some 'hard work' yet? Or are you yet another employee stealing your paid time to post your pompous comments on websites? Hope they don't catch you as it's a sackable offence, and then how would you pay your mortgage?
Good try, but a fail im afraid....must try harder. x
[quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: It isn’t acceptable to swear at kids like that, but I bet the kids aren’t little angels either! I like the way you conveniently overlooked my comments regarding hard work to buy a home. Is it time for Jeremy Kyle yet??[/p][/quote]Is it time for you to do some 'hard work' yet? Or are you yet another employee stealing your paid time to post your pompous comments on websites? Hope they don't catch you as it's a sackable offence, and then how would you pay your mortgage?[/p][/quote]Good try, but a fail im afraid....must try harder. x Doctor69
  • Score: 8

3:42pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

BackontheMainland wrote:
Doctor69 wrote:
Also, have some respect for the elderly.
But these are just older versions of the council tenants who have children and were given a council home, whom you seem to condemn as spongers. So in your scenario these older generation should have gone back to work and bought their own homes once their children had grown up.
again, nice try. x
[quote][p][bold]BackontheMainland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: Also, have some respect for the elderly.[/p][/quote]But these are just older versions of the council tenants who have children and were given a council home, whom you seem to condemn as spongers. So in your scenario these older generation should have gone back to work and bought their own homes once their children had grown up.[/p][/quote]again, nice try. x Doctor69
  • Score: 8

3:54pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
And for the record, you have no rights for your children to be able to play football within a specific radius of your home. Your neighbours however DO have the right of 'quiet enjoyment' in their homes.

I think you are fighting a losing battle here. You have tried to force the council's hand by rallying public support for your cause but as you can see from the response, you have very little.
children have every right to be able to play near their home!!!!!!!!! unless u r a police officer and u can quote exact laws then please keep ur comments to urself, and yes neighbours are allowed peace but then so r the kids but as the neighbours feel fit to give them hassle then they should be able to accept hassle back
[quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: And for the record, you have no rights for your children to be able to play football within a specific radius of your home. Your neighbours however DO have the right of 'quiet enjoyment' in their homes. I think you are fighting a losing battle here. You have tried to force the council's hand by rallying public support for your cause but as you can see from the response, you have very little.[/p][/quote]children have every right to be able to play near their home!!!!!!!!! unless u r a police officer and u can quote exact laws then please keep ur comments to urself, and yes neighbours are allowed peace but then so r the kids but as the neighbours feel fit to give them hassle then they should be able to accept hassle back noodles78
  • Score: -15

3:58pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

Doctor69 wrote:
When i was a child, i used to play in the garden at home, or i would go to the park. My parents wouldnt allow me to play football outside others houses as its annoying to them.

I dont have kids myself, but if i did, i would encourage the same behaviour. Play in the garden or go to the park. I definatly wouldnt go crying to the press because they wernt allowed to use land next to a neighbours house.

Seriously, parents of these kids, get a grip. Take the children to the park if it isnt safe for them to go alone. If that is to much effort for you, maybe you should consider moving somewhere that has a garden?

I understand kids need to play etc, but adults who have had a hard day at work need time to destress and relax in the comfort of their own homes, instead of being wound up by some chav kids!

A close isnt designed for football, its designed to live in. Parks are designed to play in. Simple!
r u prepared to come to furlong close and tell the kids and parents that the kids are chavs???????
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: When i was a child, i used to play in the garden at home, or i would go to the park. My parents wouldnt allow me to play football outside others houses as its annoying to them. I dont have kids myself, but if i did, i would encourage the same behaviour. Play in the garden or go to the park. I definatly wouldnt go crying to the press because they wernt allowed to use land next to a neighbours house. Seriously, parents of these kids, get a grip. Take the children to the park if it isnt safe for them to go alone. If that is to much effort for you, maybe you should consider moving somewhere that has a garden? I understand kids need to play etc, but adults who have had a hard day at work need time to destress and relax in the comfort of their own homes, instead of being wound up by some chav kids! A close isnt designed for football, its designed to live in. Parks are designed to play in. Simple![/p][/quote]r u prepared to come to furlong close and tell the kids and parents that the kids are chavs??????? noodles78
  • Score: -17

4:12pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

noodles78 wrote:
Doctor69 wrote:
When i was a child, i used to play in the garden at home, or i would go to the park. My parents wouldnt allow me to play football outside others houses as its annoying to them.

I dont have kids myself, but if i did, i would encourage the same behaviour. Play in the garden or go to the park. I definatly wouldnt go crying to the press because they wernt allowed to use land next to a neighbours house.

Seriously, parents of these kids, get a grip. Take the children to the park if it isnt safe for them to go alone. If that is to much effort for you, maybe you should consider moving somewhere that has a garden?

I understand kids need to play etc, but adults who have had a hard day at work need time to destress and relax in the comfort of their own homes, instead of being wound up by some chav kids!

A close isnt designed for football, its designed to live in. Parks are designed to play in. Simple!
r u prepared to come to furlong close and tell the kids and parents that the kids are chavs???????
Why would I want to do that?
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: When i was a child, i used to play in the garden at home, or i would go to the park. My parents wouldnt allow me to play football outside others houses as its annoying to them. I dont have kids myself, but if i did, i would encourage the same behaviour. Play in the garden or go to the park. I definatly wouldnt go crying to the press because they wernt allowed to use land next to a neighbours house. Seriously, parents of these kids, get a grip. Take the children to the park if it isnt safe for them to go alone. If that is to much effort for you, maybe you should consider moving somewhere that has a garden? I understand kids need to play etc, but adults who have had a hard day at work need time to destress and relax in the comfort of their own homes, instead of being wound up by some chav kids! A close isnt designed for football, its designed to live in. Parks are designed to play in. Simple![/p][/quote]r u prepared to come to furlong close and tell the kids and parents that the kids are chavs???????[/p][/quote]Why would I want to do that? Doctor69
  • Score: 14

4:15pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

why not, ur quite prepared to say it on here so isnt it right that u should be big enough to come say it to their face!
why not, ur quite prepared to say it on here so isnt it right that u should be big enough to come say it to their face! noodles78
  • Score: -15

4:24pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

I wouldn't Doc. If it is as bad as they say it is, you are bound to get stabbed/stolen from/high on your way to or from.....

Their words, not mine.
I wouldn't Doc. If it is as bad as they say it is, you are bound to get stabbed/stolen from/high on your way to or from..... Their words, not mine. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 9

4:25pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

Very true, but I'm not going to waste my time coming to argue with you in a street. Just get the parents and kids to read these comments. Then they can see how supporting the county are towards their cause?
Very true, but I'm not going to waste my time coming to argue with you in a street. Just get the parents and kids to read these comments. Then they can see how supporting the county are towards their cause? Doctor69
  • Score: 15

4:49pm Thu 19 Jul 12

JamTay81 says...

i have been quite quiet up until now and to be quite honest Doctor69 i think you are all mouth and no trousers, i have an 18 month old son, are you telling me that "he" is a chav? and how can you justify calling children you have never even met or spoken too chavs, it is totally not on, i am sure people have opinions of you too but if they where to express them would you not get a little upset? and can i just ask, what is it that you do for a living?
i have been quite quiet up until now and to be quite honest Doctor69 i think you are all mouth and no trousers, i have an 18 month old son, are you telling me that "he" is a chav? and how can you justify calling children you have never even met or spoken too chavs, it is totally not on, i am sure people have opinions of you too but if they where to express them would you not get a little upset? and can i just ask, what is it that you do for a living? JamTay81
  • Score: -14

4:58pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I wouldn't Doc. If it is as bad as they say it is, you are bound to get stabbed/stolen from/high on your way to or from.....

Their words, not mine.
but surely mr i work full time would have a car n therefore not have any problems gettin in to the close to see the parents and kids, and may i add if u type furlong close into the search bar u will find lots of stories regarding under the bridge which is a known druggie spot, we have to live here and therefore we have the right to keep the kids close to us so we can see them
[quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't Doc. If it is as bad as they say it is, you are bound to get stabbed/stolen from/high on your way to or from..... Their words, not mine.[/p][/quote]but surely mr i work full time would have a car n therefore not have any problems gettin in to the close to see the parents and kids, and may i add if u type furlong close into the search bar u will find lots of stories regarding under the bridge which is a known druggie spot, we have to live here and therefore we have the right to keep the kids close to us so we can see them noodles78
  • Score: -15

5:00pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

Doctor69 wrote:
Very true, but I'm not going to waste my time coming to argue with you in a street. Just get the parents and kids to read these comments. Then they can see how supporting the county are towards their cause?
i am one of the parents!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: Very true, but I'm not going to waste my time coming to argue with you in a street. Just get the parents and kids to read these comments. Then they can see how supporting the county are towards their cause?[/p][/quote]i am one of the parents!!!!!! noodles78
  • Score: -16

5:02pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

I've never been a drug user, so have limited experience of the way of life, but I find it hard to believe that the park, a large open space, visible from many difference perspectives, would be somewhere drug dealers and users, would choose to carry out their transactions, surely they'd do them somewhere less visible, as for the stabbings and bag snatching, if nobody's been using the park, I suspect the perpetrators have moved on to a different area.
Perhaps it's time for some parents to experience exercise too, and take a load of kids to the park.
I've never been a drug user, so have limited experience of the way of life, but I find it hard to believe that the park, a large open space, visible from many difference perspectives, would be somewhere drug dealers and users, would choose to carry out their transactions, surely they'd do them somewhere less visible, as for the stabbings and bag snatching, if nobody's been using the park, I suspect the perpetrators have moved on to a different area. Perhaps it's time for some parents to experience exercise too, and take a load of kids to the park. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 7

5:05pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
I've never been a drug user, so have limited experience of the way of life, but I find it hard to believe that the park, a large open space, visible from many difference perspectives, would be somewhere drug dealers and users, would choose to carry out their transactions, surely they'd do them somewhere less visible, as for the stabbings and bag snatching, if nobody's been using the park, I suspect the perpetrators have moved on to a different area.
Perhaps it's time for some parents to experience exercise too, and take a load of kids to the park.
in a previous comment i put that just recently (whilst i was at the park with my children) i witnessed a drug deal in the park area in full view of the kids, is this really wot i should be lettin my 3 children see?
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: I've never been a drug user, so have limited experience of the way of life, but I find it hard to believe that the park, a large open space, visible from many difference perspectives, would be somewhere drug dealers and users, would choose to carry out their transactions, surely they'd do them somewhere less visible, as for the stabbings and bag snatching, if nobody's been using the park, I suspect the perpetrators have moved on to a different area. Perhaps it's time for some parents to experience exercise too, and take a load of kids to the park.[/p][/quote]in a previous comment i put that just recently (whilst i was at the park with my children) i witnessed a drug deal in the park area in full view of the kids, is this really wot i should be lettin my 3 children see? noodles78
  • Score: -14

5:15pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

noodles78 wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
I've never been a drug user, so have limited experience of the way of life, but I find it hard to believe that the park, a large open space, visible from many difference perspectives, would be somewhere drug dealers and users, would choose to carry out their transactions, surely they'd do them somewhere less visible, as for the stabbings and bag snatching, if nobody's been using the park, I suspect the perpetrators have moved on to a different area.
Perhaps it's time for some parents to experience exercise too, and take a load of kids to the park.
in a previous comment i put that just recently (whilst i was at the park with my children) i witnessed a drug deal in the park area in full view of the kids, is this really wot i should be lettin my 3 children see?
I'm sure these alleged drug deals aren't happening 24/7, so there are obviously ample opportunities for playing football etc., how can you be so certain it was a drug deal you saw, do dealers and users wear badges?
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: I've never been a drug user, so have limited experience of the way of life, but I find it hard to believe that the park, a large open space, visible from many difference perspectives, would be somewhere drug dealers and users, would choose to carry out their transactions, surely they'd do them somewhere less visible, as for the stabbings and bag snatching, if nobody's been using the park, I suspect the perpetrators have moved on to a different area. Perhaps it's time for some parents to experience exercise too, and take a load of kids to the park.[/p][/quote]in a previous comment i put that just recently (whilst i was at the park with my children) i witnessed a drug deal in the park area in full view of the kids, is this really wot i should be lettin my 3 children see?[/p][/quote]I'm sure these alleged drug deals aren't happening 24/7, so there are obviously ample opportunities for playing football etc., how can you be so certain it was a drug deal you saw, do dealers and users wear badges? Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 3

5:51pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north?

Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.
I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north? Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 10

6:08pm Thu 19 Jul 12

doggiedoggie says...

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north?

Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.
HAVE THE COUNCIL GIVEN REASON FOR PUTTING SHRUBS INTO THE GRASSED AREA THEY HAD ?
[quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north? Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.[/p][/quote]HAVE THE COUNCIL GIVEN REASON FOR PUTTING SHRUBS INTO THE GRASSED AREA THEY HAD ? doggiedoggie
  • Score: -15

6:34pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?
I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs? ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 10

6:35pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

doggiedoggie wrote:
## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north?

Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.
HAVE THE COUNCIL GIVEN REASON FOR PUTTING SHRUBS INTO THE GRASSED AREA THEY HAD ?
yes the council have given reason, because the older people in studio flats downstairs didnt like the kids playin ball in their, my argument is y can they not fence off an area in the garden for the kids and they wouldnt be a nuisance to anyone
[quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north? Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.[/p][/quote]HAVE THE COUNCIL GIVEN REASON FOR PUTTING SHRUBS INTO THE GRASSED AREA THEY HAD ?[/p][/quote]yes the council have given reason, because the older people in studio flats downstairs didnt like the kids playin ball in their, my argument is y can they not fence off an area in the garden for the kids and they wouldnt be a nuisance to anyone noodles78
  • Score: -16

6:36pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?
im sorry but exactly wot has cars n walls got to do with the garden out the back of the maisonettes
[quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?[/p][/quote]im sorry but exactly wot has cars n walls got to do with the garden out the back of the maisonettes noodles78
  • Score: -14

6:40pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

noodles78 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north?

Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.
HAVE THE COUNCIL GIVEN REASON FOR PUTTING SHRUBS INTO THE GRASSED AREA THEY HAD ?
yes the council have given reason, because the older people in studio flats downstairs didnt like the kids playin ball in their, my argument is y can they not fence off an area in the garden for the kids and they wouldnt be a nuisance to anyone
"my argument is y can they not fence off an area in the garden for the kids and they wouldnt be a nuisance to anyone"........
.........perhaps because there's a perfectly adequate park a couple of minutes down the road? Just a guess.
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north? Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.[/p][/quote]HAVE THE COUNCIL GIVEN REASON FOR PUTTING SHRUBS INTO THE GRASSED AREA THEY HAD ?[/p][/quote]yes the council have given reason, because the older people in studio flats downstairs didnt like the kids playin ball in their, my argument is y can they not fence off an area in the garden for the kids and they wouldnt be a nuisance to anyone[/p][/quote]"my argument is y can they not fence off an area in the garden for the kids and they wouldnt be a nuisance to anyone"........ .........perhaps because there's a perfectly adequate park a couple of minutes down the road? Just a guess. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 3

6:42pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Captain J says...

Just typed "furlong close oxford" into google maps.

Blimey. I wish I'd grown up so close to THREE FULL SIZED FOOTBALL PITCHES. I wouldn't have had to play football in the street so much...
Just typed "furlong close oxford" into google maps. Blimey. I wish I'd grown up so close to THREE FULL SIZED FOOTBALL PITCHES. I wouldn't have had to play football in the street so much... Captain J
  • Score: 16

6:43pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north?

Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.
im fully aware of where the park and football field are situated i have lived in bbl for 9 years, as for the actual football field u r talkin about it is mainly used as a dog walkin field apart from at weekends so am i meant to put my 18 month at risk by allowin him to play with dog muck???????????

and as i have previously said in the 2 years i have lived here not one car or window or anythin has been damaged so i ask really wot is ur point?????
[quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: I have no intention of coming over and calling you 'chavs' or whatnot, but if you like, i could come round and show you the park that is 140 metres to the south of you and the ACTUAL FOOTBALL FIELD that is 225 metres to the north? Or y'know, you could just continue to get sniffy about the rest of the world agreeing that it is unacceptable to kick footballs around within feet of people homes/cars.[/p][/quote]im fully aware of where the park and football field are situated i have lived in bbl for 9 years, as for the actual football field u r talkin about it is mainly used as a dog walkin field apart from at weekends so am i meant to put my 18 month at risk by allowin him to play with dog muck??????????? and as i have previously said in the 2 years i have lived here not one car or window or anythin has been damaged so i ask really wot is ur point????? noodles78
  • Score: -18

6:45pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

Captain J wrote:
Just typed "furlong close oxford" into google maps.

Blimey. I wish I'd grown up so close to THREE FULL SIZED FOOTBALL PITCHES. I wouldn't have had to play football in the street so much...
three pitches that are used as a dog walkin area!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Captain J[/bold] wrote: Just typed "furlong close oxford" into google maps. Blimey. I wish I'd grown up so close to THREE FULL SIZED FOOTBALL PITCHES. I wouldn't have had to play football in the street so much...[/p][/quote]three pitches that are used as a dog walkin area!!!!!!! noodles78
  • Score: -16

6:48pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

oh n just to let all u negative people know i have been to the park with my children but had to make them go home again as it was full of teenagers and dossers who had taken up root on most of the swings etc and so there was nowhere for my 18 month old to play and even when they were asked to move they ignored it!!!!!!!
oh n just to let all u negative people know i have been to the park with my children but had to make them go home again as it was full of teenagers and dossers who had taken up root on most of the swings etc and so there was nowhere for my 18 month old to play and even when they were asked to move they ignored it!!!!!!! noodles78
  • Score: -17

6:52pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?
u check the file and when u have u can bring the paperwork to us to read properly as we only got told it was being done cos of the downstairs residents
[quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?[/p][/quote]u check the file and when u have u can bring the paperwork to us to read properly as we only got told it was being done cos of the downstairs residents noodles78
  • Score: -17

6:56pm Thu 19 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

noodles78 wrote:
## Nonny Mouse ## wrote:
I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?
im sorry but exactly wot has cars n walls got to do with the garden out the back of the maisonettes
My mistake, i thought you were refering to the patch of grass pictured at the top of this article. Anyway, that bit around the back is hardly big enough to swing a cat, let alone play football.

'three pitches that are used as a dog walkin area!!!!'

Now, that is a different matter. Had this been a protest over inconsiderate dog owners using a municiple field as a dog toilet, you would have had my full support. It's disgusting.

(See, i'm a person of the people....)
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]## Nonny Mouse ##[/bold] wrote: I'll check the file. Perhaps it was to deter your little angels from hammering the bejeejus out of people's walls/cars with footballs?[/p][/quote]im sorry but exactly wot has cars n walls got to do with the garden out the back of the maisonettes[/p][/quote]My mistake, i thought you were refering to the patch of grass pictured at the top of this article. Anyway, that bit around the back is hardly big enough to swing a cat, let alone play football. 'three pitches that are used as a dog walkin area!!!!' Now, that is a different matter. Had this been a protest over inconsiderate dog owners using a municiple field as a dog toilet, you would have had my full support. It's disgusting. (See, i'm a person of the people....) ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 6

7:04pm Thu 19 Jul 12

noodles78 says...

well im glad we can agree on one thing,

this whole thing isnt about the bit of green its about gettin the garden back to keep the kids away from the green and stoppin the complaints, yes i get the point the park isnt that far away but as a parent im allowed to choose whether or not i send my kids their, young children are more vulnerable nowadays than ever and so as parents we feel its our right to have a safe space. i.e the back garden so our kids are protected and where we can see them
well im glad we can agree on one thing, this whole thing isnt about the bit of green its about gettin the garden back to keep the kids away from the green and stoppin the complaints, yes i get the point the park isnt that far away but as a parent im allowed to choose whether or not i send my kids their, young children are more vulnerable nowadays than ever and so as parents we feel its our right to have a safe space. i.e the back garden so our kids are protected and where we can see them noodles78
  • Score: -15

7:55pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

noodles78 wrote:
oh n just to let all u negative people know i have been to the park with my children but had to make them go home again as it was full of teenagers and dossers who had taken up root on most of the swings etc and so there was nowhere for my 18 month old to play and even when they were asked to move they ignored it!!!!!!!
I thought this was all about the inability to play football, can you do that on swings etc.?
You have 3 kids, one of them being 18 months old, so I'm guessing you have a partner, is he incapable of looking after the toddler, or taking the older kids to play football?

Instead of protesting, perhaps you can work with CANacT, with regard to the unsavoury individuals that you have said frequent the park, that would be a benefit to the whole neighbourhood, not just a few families.
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: oh n just to let all u negative people know i have been to the park with my children but had to make them go home again as it was full of teenagers and dossers who had taken up root on most of the swings etc and so there was nowhere for my 18 month old to play and even when they were asked to move they ignored it!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I thought this was all about the inability to play football, can you do that on swings etc.? You have 3 kids, one of them being 18 months old, so I'm guessing you have a partner, is he incapable of looking after the toddler, or taking the older kids to play football? Instead of protesting, perhaps you can work with CANacT, with regard to the unsavoury individuals that you have said frequent the park, that would be a benefit to the whole neighbourhood, not just a few families. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 6

8:56pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

Person who said I'm all mouth no trousers, no, I'm just not going to come and meet you and your family. I also never called an 18month baby a Chav, I was referring to the kids who pound people's walls with footballs and then climb into their gardens.
For the record I am a senior management consultant for an independent software firm. Does it actually matter though?
Person who said I'm all mouth no trousers, no, I'm just not going to come and meet you and your family. I also never called an 18month baby a Chav, I was referring to the kids who pound people's walls with footballs and then climb into their gardens. For the record I am a senior management consultant for an independent software firm. Does it actually matter though? Doctor69
  • Score: 14

10:08pm Thu 19 Jul 12

GTS kiddy says...

For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!! GTS kiddy
  • Score: -21

10:20pm Thu 19 Jul 12

doggiedoggie says...

GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
[quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had. doggiedoggie
  • Score: -15

11:04pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
[quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 14

6:05am Fri 20 Jul 12

doggiedoggie says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ? doggiedoggie
  • Score: -9

7:17am Fri 20 Jul 12

GTS kiddy says...

doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!
[quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy. I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!! I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that. We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely. Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ?? People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!! GTS kiddy
  • Score: -9

9:11am Fri 20 Jul 12

JanetJ says...

doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live
[quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live JanetJ
  • Score: 11

9:29am Fri 20 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

JanetJ wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live
it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love
[quote][p][bold]JanetJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live[/p][/quote]it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love kaydensmummy
  • Score: -15

10:03am Fri 20 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

If you are depending on the state to raise a child, you should be happy with what you are given. A flat is not ideal, obviously, but is perfectly acceptable accommodation.
If you are depending on the state to raise a child, you should be happy with what you are given. A flat is not ideal, obviously, but is perfectly acceptable accommodation. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 14

11:10am Fri 20 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
JanetJ wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live
it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love
"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!"..........
...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho
t yourself in the foot there :-)
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JanetJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live[/p][/quote]it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love[/p][/quote]"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!".......... ...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho t yourself in the foot there :-) Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 13

12:53pm Fri 20 Jul 12

doggiedoggie says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
kaydensmummy wrote:
JanetJ wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live
it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love
"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!"..........
...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho

t yourself in the foot there :-)
ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME TRYING TO SORT OUT. ENOUGH SAID FROM ME !
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JanetJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live[/p][/quote]it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love[/p][/quote]"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!".......... ...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho t yourself in the foot there :-)[/p][/quote]ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME TRYING TO SORT OUT. ENOUGH SAID FROM ME ! doggiedoggie
  • Score: -10

12:55pm Fri 20 Jul 12

doggiedoggie says...

doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
kaydensmummy wrote:
JanetJ wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live
it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love
"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!"..........
...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho


t yourself in the foot there :-)
ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME TRYING TO SORT OUT. ENOUGH SAID FROM ME !
Better than that i think most people think children should be seen but not heard now that is PATHETIC give them a chance !
[quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JanetJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live[/p][/quote]it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love[/p][/quote]"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!".......... ...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho t yourself in the foot there :-)[/p][/quote]ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME TRYING TO SORT OUT. ENOUGH SAID FROM ME ![/p][/quote]Better than that i think most people think children should be seen but not heard now that is PATHETIC give them a chance ! doggiedoggie
  • Score: -11

12:55pm Fri 20 Jul 12

doggiedoggie says...

doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
kaydensmummy wrote:
JanetJ wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live
it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love
"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!"..........
...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho


t yourself in the foot there :-)
ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME TRYING TO SORT OUT. ENOUGH SAID FROM ME !
Better than that i think most people think children should be seen but not heard now that is PATHETIC give them a chance !
[quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JanetJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]You could also question why they have had children when they have nowhere appropriate for them to live[/p][/quote]it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!! im a mum to a 13 month old toddler and i live in a flat so should i not have a child because of where i live ummmmmmm no !!! get over yourself janetj your pathetic love[/p][/quote]"it doesnt matter if u live in a flat,house,bungalow whatsoever as long as those children have a roof over their head !!!".......... ...........you've hit the nail on the head, absolutely no requirement for the provision of somewhere to play football on their doorstep.........sho t yourself in the foot there :-)[/p][/quote]ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME TRYING TO SORT OUT. ENOUGH SAID FROM ME ![/p][/quote]Better than that i think most people think children should be seen but not heard now that is PATHETIC give them a chance ! doggiedoggie
  • Score: -10

2:27pm Fri 20 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

how have i shot myself in the foot there u dumb **** !!! i quoted on what janetj said about why have kids if havent got suitable accomodation !!!! read my comment again u fool now dont bother replying your boring me now
how have i shot myself in the foot there u dumb **** !!! i quoted on what janetj said about why have kids if havent got suitable accomodation !!!! read my comment again u fool now dont bother replying your boring me now kaydensmummy
  • Score: -13

2:33pm Fri 20 Jul 12

famalam says...

Got to remember that the tiny number of people commenting on this article so negatively isn't the whole public. I'd be surprised if most people didn't agree with you parents actually.

It shouldnt be a families and children vs. old people thing. It should be a families, children and old people vs. the council thing! Its the council who has failed to maintain safe parks or gardens, and so they are at fault. I feel sorry for the old people being disturbed by kids playing football. But more sorry for the kids who can't play football outside and their families.
Got to remember that the tiny number of people commenting on this article so negatively isn't the whole public. I'd be surprised if most people didn't agree with you parents actually. It shouldnt be a families and children vs. old people thing. It should be a families, children and old people vs. the council thing! Its the council who has failed to maintain safe parks or gardens, and so they are at fault. I feel sorry for the old people being disturbed by kids playing football. But more sorry for the kids who can't play football outside and their families. famalam
  • Score: -9

2:48pm Fri 20 Jul 12

norwood-clark2010 says...

would you send your kids to the park with all the perverts around when i was growing up it was fine now its not so the kids should be able to play out the front on the grass end off old people can go and do one
would you send your kids to the park with all the perverts around when i was growing up it was fine now its not so the kids should be able to play out the front on the grass end off old people can go and do one norwood-clark2010
  • Score: -9

2:50pm Fri 20 Jul 12

norwood-clark2010 says...

it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off
it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off norwood-clark2010
  • Score: -7

3:11pm Fri 20 Jul 12

A34North says...

famalam wrote:
Got to remember that the tiny number of people commenting on this article so negatively isn't the whole public. I'd be surprised if most people didn't agree with you parents actually.

It shouldnt be a families and children vs. old people thing. It should be a families, children and old people vs. the council thing! Its the council who has failed to maintain safe parks or gardens, and so they are at fault. I feel sorry for the old people being disturbed by kids playing football. But more sorry for the kids who can't play football outside and their families.
Yes that dreadful council who give out housing benefit to all those selfish people who expect more, more, more, in their me, me, me world. Why if it wasn't for them we could have elderly people homes, care workers and park wardens where the kids would be safe from those horrible nasty people and fouling dogs.
You must be pleased this government is hoping to crack down on these people. Allegedly there are some people who think its no more than a form of prostitution; they get the pleasure and we all have to pay for it.
[quote][p][bold]famalam[/bold] wrote: Got to remember that the tiny number of people commenting on this article so negatively isn't the whole public. I'd be surprised if most people didn't agree with you parents actually. It shouldnt be a families and children vs. old people thing. It should be a families, children and old people vs. the council thing! Its the council who has failed to maintain safe parks or gardens, and so they are at fault. I feel sorry for the old people being disturbed by kids playing football. But more sorry for the kids who can't play football outside and their families.[/p][/quote]Yes that dreadful council who give out housing benefit to all those selfish people who expect more, more, more, in their me, me, me world. Why if it wasn't for them we could have elderly people homes, care workers and park wardens where the kids would be safe from those horrible nasty people and fouling dogs. You must be pleased this government is hoping to crack down on these people. Allegedly there are some people who think its no more than a form of prostitution; they get the pleasure and we all have to pay for it. A34North
  • Score: 10

3:33pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

norwood-clark2010 wrote:
it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off
You cannot expect to be taken seriously when you misspeal 'OF'.
[quote][p][bold]norwood-clark2010[/bold] wrote: it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off[/p][/quote]You cannot expect to be taken seriously when you misspeal 'OF'. Doctor69
  • Score: 6

3:34pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

A34North wrote:
famalam wrote:
Got to remember that the tiny number of people commenting on this article so negatively isn't the whole public. I'd be surprised if most people didn't agree with you parents actually.

It shouldnt be a families and children vs. old people thing. It should be a families, children and old people vs. the council thing! Its the council who has failed to maintain safe parks or gardens, and so they are at fault. I feel sorry for the old people being disturbed by kids playing football. But more sorry for the kids who can't play football outside and their families.
Yes that dreadful council who give out housing benefit to all those selfish people who expect more, more, more, in their me, me, me world. Why if it wasn't for them we could have elderly people homes, care workers and park wardens where the kids would be safe from those horrible nasty people and fouling dogs.
You must be pleased this government is hoping to crack down on these people. Allegedly there are some people who think its no more than a form of prostitution; they get the pleasure and we all have to pay for it.
Of course people who have children they can't afford to home should be given exactly what they demand! We can all go to work to pay for it too!
[quote][p][bold]A34North[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]famalam[/bold] wrote: Got to remember that the tiny number of people commenting on this article so negatively isn't the whole public. I'd be surprised if most people didn't agree with you parents actually. It shouldnt be a families and children vs. old people thing. It should be a families, children and old people vs. the council thing! Its the council who has failed to maintain safe parks or gardens, and so they are at fault. I feel sorry for the old people being disturbed by kids playing football. But more sorry for the kids who can't play football outside and their families.[/p][/quote]Yes that dreadful council who give out housing benefit to all those selfish people who expect more, more, more, in their me, me, me world. Why if it wasn't for them we could have elderly people homes, care workers and park wardens where the kids would be safe from those horrible nasty people and fouling dogs. You must be pleased this government is hoping to crack down on these people. Allegedly there are some people who think its no more than a form of prostitution; they get the pleasure and we all have to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Of course people who have children they can't afford to home should be given exactly what they demand! We can all go to work to pay for it too! Doctor69
  • Score: 6

3:36pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

Doctor69 wrote:
norwood-clark2010 wrote:
it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off
You cannot expect to be taken seriously when you misspeal 'OF'.
Hands up - *misspell - that’s embarrassing!
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]norwood-clark2010[/bold] wrote: it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off[/p][/quote]You cannot expect to be taken seriously when you misspeal 'OF'.[/p][/quote]Hands up - *misspell - that’s embarrassing! Doctor69
  • Score: 9

3:37pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
how have i shot myself in the foot there u dumb **** !!! i quoted on what janetj said about why have kids if havent got suitable accomodation !!!! read my comment again u fool now dont bother replying your boring me now
Don't get your own way, become abusive.....What a surprise.
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: how have i shot myself in the foot there u dumb **** !!! i quoted on what janetj said about why have kids if havent got suitable accomodation !!!! read my comment again u fool now dont bother replying your boring me now[/p][/quote]Don't get your own way, become abusive.....What a surprise. Doctor69
  • Score: 9

3:48pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

norwood-clark2010 wrote:
it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off
Oh yes, back in the days when we WERE kids, there were no such thing as perverts, try telling that to the parents of Genette Tate who disappeared in 1978, and there have been plenty of other cases too.
I think there were more cases of child abduction in the 60's & 70's than there are now, the only one in recent times that springs to mind was Madeleine McCann, and that wasn't even in the UK.
People are using this as an excuse as though it happens every day, on every street in the country, yes it's happened, and it's a heinous crime, but I don't think I've heard of an incident where one child has been abducted from a crowd, certainly not from a park overlooked by loads of houses.
[quote][p][bold]norwood-clark2010[/bold] wrote: it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off[/p][/quote]Oh yes, back in the days when we WERE kids, there were no such thing as perverts, try telling that to the parents of Genette Tate who disappeared in 1978, and there have been plenty of other cases too. I think there were more cases of child abduction in the 60's & 70's than there are now, the only one in recent times that springs to mind was Madeleine McCann, and that wasn't even in the UK. People are using this as an excuse as though it happens every day, on every street in the country, yes it's happened, and it's a heinous crime, but I don't think I've heard of an incident where one child has been abducted from a crowd, certainly not from a park overlooked by loads of houses. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 5

4:01pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
how have i shot myself in the foot there u dumb **** !!! i quoted on what janetj said about why have kids if havent got suitable accomodation !!!! read my comment again u fool now dont bother replying your boring me now
When you start college, you should certainly investigate the possibility of learning grammar, and spelling.
I will continue to post replies until I see an adequate reason for parents not accompanying their children to the park, and why they should be allowed to play on a patch of grass, which is obviously upsetting some neighbours.
I think what this is a case of is, kids being sent out to play, because parents are too busy smoking, drinking & watching TV, so don't want to be disturbed.
As for calling me dumb, you stated that the most important thing was kids having a roof over their head, which is what the council have provided, they aren't obliged to provide a patch of land on people's doorsteps for kids to play football on.
Let's just add a little perspective, when my parents got married, in 1960, my Father was in the RAF, their accommodation was a caravan, because that's all that was available, and they had to pay for that.
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: how have i shot myself in the foot there u dumb **** !!! i quoted on what janetj said about why have kids if havent got suitable accomodation !!!! read my comment again u fool now dont bother replying your boring me now[/p][/quote]When you start college, you should certainly investigate the possibility of learning grammar, and spelling. I will continue to post replies until I see an adequate reason for parents not accompanying their children to the park, and why they should be allowed to play on a patch of grass, which is obviously upsetting some neighbours. I think what this is a case of is, kids being sent out to play, because parents are too busy smoking, drinking & watching TV, so don't want to be disturbed. As for calling me dumb, you stated that the most important thing was kids having a roof over their head, which is what the council have provided, they aren't obliged to provide a patch of land on people's doorsteps for kids to play football on. Let's just add a little perspective, when my parents got married, in 1960, my Father was in the RAF, their accommodation was a caravan, because that's all that was available, and they had to pay for that. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 9

4:03pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Doctor69 says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
norwood-clark2010 wrote:
it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off
Oh yes, back in the days when we WERE kids, there were no such thing as perverts, try telling that to the parents of Genette Tate who disappeared in 1978, and there have been plenty of other cases too.
I think there were more cases of child abduction in the 60's & 70's than there are now, the only one in recent times that springs to mind was Madeleine McCann, and that wasn't even in the UK.
People are using this as an excuse as though it happens every day, on every street in the country, yes it's happened, and it's a heinous crime, but I don't think I've heard of an incident where one child has been abducted from a crowd, certainly not from a park overlooked by loads of houses.
To be fair, it is a risk with children and abductions or other bad things happening to them. BUT getting up in the morning and stepping out of the house is also a risk.
A sensible approach needs to be taken, and if the parents deem a park or other public place to risky, they need to supervise.

It still seems to me, that the parents in this case want everything doing for them and all the facilities being provided on their doorsteps.
As I mentioned earlier, I don’t have children...but I guess if you have kids, then you have to put yourself out to accommodate their needs.

If the park is as bad as the local families are saying, then that should be the topic of this article, and it would have gained a far more positive response than this has.
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]norwood-clark2010[/bold] wrote: it was ok bk in the days when we was kids to go to the park but now u have got perverts around the kids should be able to play on the grass end off[/p][/quote]Oh yes, back in the days when we WERE kids, there were no such thing as perverts, try telling that to the parents of Genette Tate who disappeared in 1978, and there have been plenty of other cases too. I think there were more cases of child abduction in the 60's & 70's than there are now, the only one in recent times that springs to mind was Madeleine McCann, and that wasn't even in the UK. People are using this as an excuse as though it happens every day, on every street in the country, yes it's happened, and it's a heinous crime, but I don't think I've heard of an incident where one child has been abducted from a crowd, certainly not from a park overlooked by loads of houses.[/p][/quote]To be fair, it is a risk with children and abductions or other bad things happening to them. BUT getting up in the morning and stepping out of the house is also a risk. A sensible approach needs to be taken, and if the parents deem a park or other public place to risky, they need to supervise. It still seems to me, that the parents in this case want everything doing for them and all the facilities being provided on their doorsteps. As I mentioned earlier, I don’t have children...but I guess if you have kids, then you have to put yourself out to accommodate their needs. If the park is as bad as the local families are saying, then that should be the topic of this article, and it would have gained a far more positive response than this has. Doctor69
  • Score: 6

4:05pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

140 comments, is this a record?
140 comments, is this a record? Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 4

4:09pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

GTS kiddy wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!
"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?
[quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy. I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!! I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that. We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely. Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ?? People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!![/p][/quote]"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely"......... ..........you are joking, surely? Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land? Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 7

7:29pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Bon Rurgundy says...

I am absolutely staggered by some people's sense of entitlement...
I am absolutely staggered by some people's sense of entitlement... Bon Rurgundy
  • Score: 5

7:45pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

Bon Rurgundy wrote:
I am absolutely staggered by some people's sense of entitlement...
Totally agree, I'm dumbstruck when I see families on TV being interviewed about benefit changes, saying they'll have to choose between eating, and buying new shoes for the kids, whilst sat on a leather sofa, with a large LCD TV, Satellite Box, and games console in the background.
People want, and expect, too much, although this of course is about a patch of communal garden.
[quote][p][bold]Bon Rurgundy[/bold] wrote: I am absolutely staggered by some people's sense of entitlement...[/p][/quote]Totally agree, I'm dumbstruck when I see families on TV being interviewed about benefit changes, saying they'll have to choose between eating, and buying new shoes for the kids, whilst sat on a leather sofa, with a large LCD TV, Satellite Box, and games console in the background. People want, and expect, too much, although this of course is about a patch of communal garden. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 3

7:48pm Fri 20 Jul 12

A34North says...

Andy Warhol!
Andy Warhol! A34North
  • Score: 0

7:27pm Sat 21 Jul 12

BenkiuGuasu says...

Let the kids play ball. Complaining residents need to get a life.
Let the kids play ball. Complaining residents need to get a life. BenkiuGuasu
  • Score: -7

8:29pm Sat 21 Jul 12

simplicissimus says...

Ball games on residential streets, pavements, walls, &c, are often noisy and an antisocial nuisance. Players often lose control and property and vehicles are likely to be hit and even damaged.

We should support bans, which protect the greater common good, and encourage such games on grassed areas away from close proximity to homes, where the thudding is less noticeable.

Well done to those who have restricted ball games in areas that are less fit, and may the ban be rolled out across the City!
Ball games on residential streets, pavements, walls, &c, are often noisy and an antisocial nuisance. Players often lose control and property and vehicles are likely to be hit and even damaged. We should support bans, which protect the greater common good, and encourage such games on grassed areas away from close proximity to homes, where the thudding is less noticeable. Well done to those who have restricted ball games in areas that are less fit, and may the ban be rolled out across the City! simplicissimus
  • Score: 6

8:45pm Sat 21 Jul 12

Bon Rurgundy says...

BenkiuGuasu wrote:
Let the kids play ball. Complaining residents need to get a life.
I think the point is that they can play "ball" - if they walk 489ft to the local park.

I'm sure the residents have a life, a considerably more quiet one now.
[quote][p][bold]BenkiuGuasu[/bold] wrote: Let the kids play ball. Complaining residents need to get a life.[/p][/quote]I think the point is that they can play "ball" - if they walk 489ft to the local park. I'm sure the residents have a life, a considerably more quiet one now. Bon Rurgundy
  • Score: 2

5:09am Sun 22 Jul 12

Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St says...

simplicissimus wrote:
Ball games on residential streets, pavements, walls, &c, are often noisy and an antisocial nuisance. Players often lose control and property and vehicles are likely to be hit and even damaged.

We should support bans, which protect the greater common good, and encourage such games on grassed areas away from close proximity to homes, where the thudding is less noticeable.

Well done to those who have restricted ball games in areas that are less fit, and may the ban be rolled out across the City!
I agree, and can this ban be imposed on our "little darlings" from both Universities who's anti-social vandalism, nuisance and screaming at the top of their voices on their way home after a couple of shandies, causes far more damage to peoples property and sleep than a few children playing football in the street ever will. So I suggest a ban on alcohol sales to all students outside of their own college bar, and may that also be rolled out across the city, Ms Simples.
[quote][p][bold]simplicissimus[/bold] wrote: Ball games on residential streets, pavements, walls, &c, are often noisy and an antisocial nuisance. Players often lose control and property and vehicles are likely to be hit and even damaged. We should support bans, which protect the greater common good, and encourage such games on grassed areas away from close proximity to homes, where the thudding is less noticeable. Well done to those who have restricted ball games in areas that are less fit, and may the ban be rolled out across the City![/p][/quote]I agree, and can this ban be imposed on our "little darlings" from both Universities who's anti-social vandalism, nuisance and screaming at the top of their voices on their way home after a couple of shandies, causes far more damage to peoples property and sleep than a few children playing football in the street ever will. So I suggest a ban on alcohol sales to all students outside of their own college bar, and may that also be rolled out across the city, Ms Simples. Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St
  • Score: -1

5:21am Sun 22 Jul 12

Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!
"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?
It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy. I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!! I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that. We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely. Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ?? People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!![/p][/quote]"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely"......... ..........you are joking, surely? Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?[/p][/quote]It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not. Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St
  • Score: 1

9:37am Sun 22 Jul 12

A34North says...

Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!
"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?
It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.
Oh please, have you not read the whole article and comments? We moved on from drugs and child molesters many comments ago we are at present on dog crap as the excuse.
[quote][p][bold]Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy. I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!! I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that. We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely. Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ?? People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!![/p][/quote]"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely"......... ..........you are joking, surely? Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?[/p][/quote]It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.[/p][/quote]Oh please, have you not read the whole article and comments? We moved on from drugs and child molesters many comments ago we are at present on dog crap as the excuse. A34North
  • Score: 4

5:31pm Sun 22 Jul 12

Bon Rurgundy says...

A34North wrote:
Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!
"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?
It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.
Oh please, have you not read the whole article and comments? We moved on from drugs and child molesters many comments ago we are at present on dog crap as the excuse.
Someone needs to tell the twenty or so kids I have seen in this park when driving past in the last couple of days that it is so unsafe. There was a marked lack of nonces and drug dealers as well...
[quote][p][bold]A34North[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy. I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!! I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that. We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely. Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ?? People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!![/p][/quote]"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely"......... ..........you are joking, surely? Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?[/p][/quote]It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.[/p][/quote]Oh please, have you not read the whole article and comments? We moved on from drugs and child molesters many comments ago we are at present on dog crap as the excuse.[/p][/quote]Someone needs to tell the twenty or so kids I have seen in this park when driving past in the last couple of days that it is so unsafe. There was a marked lack of nonces and drug dealers as well... Bon Rurgundy
  • Score: 2

5:54pm Sun 22 Jul 12

John Lamb says...

This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog?
If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight.
I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted.
Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents.
After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't.
Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout?
Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?
This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog? If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight. I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted. Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents. After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't. Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout? Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind? John Lamb
  • Score: 5

9:41pm Sun 22 Jul 12

A34North says...

John Lamb wrote:
This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog?
If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight.
I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted.
Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents.
After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't.
Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout?
Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?
John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?
[quote][p][bold]John Lamb[/bold] wrote: This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog? If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight. I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted. Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents. After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't. Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout? Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?[/p][/quote]John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people? A34North
  • Score: 6

9:43am Mon 23 Jul 12

John Lamb says...

*their
Oops
*their Oops John Lamb
  • Score: 4

10:13am Mon 23 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

John Lamb wrote:
*their
Oops
LOL ;-)
[quote][p][bold]John Lamb[/bold] wrote: *their Oops[/p][/quote]LOL ;-) Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 2

10:16am Mon 23 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

A34North wrote:
John Lamb wrote:
This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog?
If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight.
I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted.
Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents.
After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't.
Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout?
Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?
John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?
I doubt it very much, they've dug themselves a hole, so deep, that they can't get out of to reach their computers.
[quote][p][bold]A34North[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Lamb[/bold] wrote: This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog? If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight. I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted. Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents. After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't. Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout? Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?[/p][/quote]John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?[/p][/quote]I doubt it very much, they've dug themselves a hole, so deep, that they can't get out of to reach their computers. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 2

10:46am Mon 23 Jul 12

A34North says...

Dilligaf2010 wrote:
A34North wrote:
John Lamb wrote:
This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog?
If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight.
I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted.
Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents.
After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't.
Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout?
Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?
John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?
I doubt it very much, they've dug themselves a hole, so deep, that they can't get out of to reach their computers.
Hey Dilly, maybe they have taken them to the park?
[quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A34North[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Lamb[/bold] wrote: This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog? If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight. I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted. Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents. After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't. Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout? Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?[/p][/quote]John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?[/p][/quote]I doubt it very much, they've dug themselves a hole, so deep, that they can't get out of to reach their computers.[/p][/quote]Hey Dilly, maybe they have taken them to the park? A34North
  • Score: 4

12:11pm Mon 23 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

A34North wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
A34North wrote:
John Lamb wrote:
This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog?
If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight.
I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted.
Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents.
After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't.
Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout?
Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?
John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?
I doubt it very much, they've dug themselves a hole, so deep, that they can't get out of to reach their computers.
Hey Dilly, maybe they have taken them to the park?
I'll have a pint of what you're drinking ;-)
[quote][p][bold]A34North[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A34North[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Lamb[/bold] wrote: This little piece of land is ok for very young children to play on unsupervised by their otherwise occupied parent/parents, even though it is blighting the lives of the other older tenants? Did none of these bleating parents think to make sure they had suitable accommodation before dropping sprog after sprog? If the park is full of druggies and weirdos, as stated, then these same groups must at some point walk past or near these unsupervised children. If you live in the jungle you don't let your offspring out of your sight. I suggest all the the rest of us chip together and pay for football sessions for all these kids so there mums can view Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women uninterrupted. Or we could ignore them and hope they become responsible parents. After reading the badly spelt gibberish on here, I just pity the kids. They have poor role models who think their hooman rights outweigh everybody else's. They don't. Also, do these parents with medical problems not have friends/relatives who can take these sprogs out for a kickabout? Or is it, as I suspect, they just want a quiet life and out of sight is out of mind?[/p][/quote]John Lamb, you have a very valid point. Is there a response by these hard done by people?[/p][/quote]I doubt it very much, they've dug themselves a hole, so deep, that they can't get out of to reach their computers.[/p][/quote]Hey Dilly, maybe they have taken them to the park?[/p][/quote]I'll have a pint of what you're drinking ;-) Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 2

12:48pm Mon 23 Jul 12

famalam says...

John Lamb does not have a valid point. His main point as i see it is that the grass they're playing football on now will have the same people going past it who make the park unsuitable for kids. This is wrong. It is wrong because the point is not that there will be unsavoury types walking past, but that drug deals happen in sight of the kids. Drug dealers may walk past the grass the kids play football on, but then that's inevitable to some extent wherever you live, cos there's loads of dealers... The point is that people don't actually deal in front of where the kids play football at the moment. The same applies with perverts/paedos. Over to you.
John Lamb does not have a valid point. His main point as i see it is that the grass they're playing football on now will have the same people going past it who make the park unsuitable for kids. This is wrong. It is wrong because the point is not that there will be unsavoury types walking past, but that drug deals happen in sight of the kids. Drug dealers may walk past the grass the kids play football on, but then that's inevitable to some extent wherever you live, cos there's loads of dealers... The point is that people don't actually deal in front of where the kids play football at the moment. The same applies with perverts/paedos. Over to you. famalam
  • Score: -5

2:48pm Mon 23 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

By that logic, if the park/football fields are used more as intended, the dealer's etc will move on somewhere else.

Oh, and sorry to be the one to break it to you, but the likelihood of someone wanting to have sex/abduct any of your children is minuscule. Do you honestly think that there is more of it going on (proportionally) than when you were children? Per-lease.
By that logic, if the park/football fields are used more as intended, the dealer's etc will move on somewhere else. Oh, and sorry to be the one to break it to you, but the likelihood of someone wanting to have sex/abduct any of your children is minuscule. Do you honestly think that there is more of it going on (proportionally) than when you were children? Per-lease. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 5

3:16pm Mon 23 Jul 12

A34North says...

famalam wrote:
John Lamb does not have a valid point. His main point as i see it is that the grass they're playing football on now will have the same people going past it who make the park unsuitable for kids. This is wrong. It is wrong because the point is not that there will be unsavoury types walking past, but that drug deals happen in sight of the kids. Drug dealers may walk past the grass the kids play football on, but then that's inevitable to some extent wherever you live, cos there's loads of dealers... The point is that people don't actually deal in front of where the kids play football at the moment. The same applies with perverts/paedos. Over to you.
Do you partake of the Daily Mail perchance?

I despair that you think that John Lamb does not have many valid points within his recent comment.

Look, lets go through this from the top. For generations people young and old have not tolerated the thud, thud, thud of a ball. Believe it or not it is rather anti social.
Some mothers then think they will get support by taking their oh so hard done by children into the public eye through this newspaper and blame the nearby aged people for complaining. Unfortunately, they did not get the response they thought they would get so the blame culture takes over. First we had the possibility the children would be attacked then came the drug dealers and the 'people who stare at the children', work and medical problems then surfaced to be followed by the eighteen month old child, next came the forfeit of responsibility as the 'parents had lives too'. Up to this point there was also the little snipes at posters who did not agree with the cause.
We then had a period of posting that seemed to dispel the threat of drug dealers and the like although we did have a little foray into respecting the children. I think we were all wondering if the parents were going to take the children to the park?
No, no, of course not, up pops dog muck and the possibility of the children touching it. The very park that is used by by footballers at the weekend. Teenagers using the park became the next no,no. Parents rights on safe places was raised and a little more abuse thrown in.
Right, who can we blame now, the council of course and of course we are all perverts. TVP were also blamed.

So, we have a piece of land that the parents want for their children to play football to the detriment of others in the area. The council made it a no ball game area of which there are many in the area. The park continues to be used by the community and yet these children are not encouraged to use the facility and from what has been posted here one could assume that the children are frightened to death of the outside world.
The ability to parent children to ensure their health, wealth and wellbeing and ensure their acceptability into society is a gift to parents.
[quote][p][bold]famalam[/bold] wrote: John Lamb does not have a valid point. His main point as i see it is that the grass they're playing football on now will have the same people going past it who make the park unsuitable for kids. This is wrong. It is wrong because the point is not that there will be unsavoury types walking past, but that drug deals happen in sight of the kids. Drug dealers may walk past the grass the kids play football on, but then that's inevitable to some extent wherever you live, cos there's loads of dealers... The point is that people don't actually deal in front of where the kids play football at the moment. The same applies with perverts/paedos. Over to you.[/p][/quote]Do you partake of the Daily Mail perchance? I despair that you think that John Lamb does not have many valid points within his recent comment. Look, lets go through this from the top. For generations people young and old have not tolerated the thud, thud, thud of a ball. Believe it or not it is rather anti social. Some mothers then think they will get support by taking their oh so hard done by children into the public eye through this newspaper and blame the nearby aged people for complaining. Unfortunately, they did not get the response they thought they would get so the blame culture takes over. First we had the possibility the children would be attacked then came the drug dealers and the 'people who stare at the children', work and medical problems then surfaced to be followed by the eighteen month old child, next came the forfeit of responsibility as the 'parents had lives too'. Up to this point there was also the little snipes at posters who did not agree with the cause. We then had a period of posting that seemed to dispel the threat of drug dealers and the like although we did have a little foray into respecting the children. I think we were all wondering if the parents were going to take the children to the park? No, no, of course not, up pops dog muck and the possibility of the children touching it. The very park that is used by by footballers at the weekend. Teenagers using the park became the next no,no. Parents rights on safe places was raised and a little more abuse thrown in. Right, who can we blame now, the council of course and of course we are all perverts. TVP were also blamed. So, we have a piece of land that the parents want for their children to play football to the detriment of others in the area. The council made it a no ball game area of which there are many in the area. The park continues to be used by the community and yet these children are not encouraged to use the facility and from what has been posted here one could assume that the children are frightened to death of the outside world. The ability to parent children to ensure their health, wealth and wellbeing and ensure their acceptability into society is a gift to parents. A34North
  • Score: 6

3:49pm Mon 23 Jul 12

GTS kiddy says...

Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!
"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?
It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.
obv i was joking yes.
It is up to parents to keep an eye on their own children.
But I dont think at 10 years old parents should have to escort the children to the park because of drug dealers, etc.... and older kids and dog mess!!
also as I ws saying before if you have a younger child in the park would you want a couple of youngsters kicking a ball around? poor kids cant do anything right nowadays. give them a bit of green for playing footy a park with swings etc for the others. and for gods sake people stop being so negative and miserable. life is too short, not everyone is equal, just deal with it!!
[quote][p][bold]Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy. I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!! I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that. We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely. Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ?? People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!![/p][/quote]"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely"......... ..........you are joking, surely? Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?[/p][/quote]It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.[/p][/quote]obv i was joking yes. It is up to parents to keep an eye on their own children. But I dont think at 10 years old parents should have to escort the children to the park because of drug dealers, etc.... and older kids and dog mess!! also as I ws saying before if you have a younger child in the park would you want a couple of youngsters kicking a ball around? poor kids cant do anything right nowadays. give them a bit of green for playing footy a park with swings etc for the others. and for gods sake people stop being so negative and miserable. life is too short, not everyone is equal, just deal with it!! GTS kiddy
  • Score: -4

4:27pm Mon 23 Jul 12

John Lamb says...

famalam wrote:
John Lamb does not have a valid point. His main point as i see it is that the grass they're playing football on now will have the same people going past it who make the park unsuitable for kids. This is wrong. It is wrong because the point is not that there will be unsavoury types walking past, but that drug deals happen in sight of the kids. Drug dealers may walk past the grass the kids play football on, but then that's inevitable to some extent wherever you live, cos there's loads of dealers... The point is that people don't actually deal in front of where the kids play football at the moment. The same applies with perverts/paedos. Over to you.
My main point, which you have totally missed, is that it is an individual parent's responsibility to care and protect their own children. People moan about a nanny state yet these feckless women are actually demanding that their offspring are allowed to annoy and irritate other members of their community because they cannot be bothered to interact with their own children.
Do these women think that the bad people stop at the park?
If the park is bad then the area will be bad. Do children know a drug deal is going down if one person passes another something?
Why not take your kids to the park and make a note of all the drug dealers and paedos and inform the police and make the park a safer place?
No...because this takes effort and a bit of community spirit which these whingers profess to have but don't actually possess.
Whilst they are playing football on this bit of grass do the mums watch from their windows and keep an eye on them? No...because it would mean missing a bit of telly.
I have several children, all of whom I have taken to the park.
I realise this has meant me having to get off my backside at regular intervals but that's part and parcel of being a parent. It has also helps me keep fit and well.
This the-world-owes-me-a-
living attitude is why we're in the state we are.
They're YOUR kids. If you can't get them to the designated place for legally playing football then form a group to make a rota and take it in turns. Don't expect anyone to think it ok to make old folk's lives a misery because of your laziness and absolute gall.
[quote][p][bold]famalam[/bold] wrote: John Lamb does not have a valid point. His main point as i see it is that the grass they're playing football on now will have the same people going past it who make the park unsuitable for kids. This is wrong. It is wrong because the point is not that there will be unsavoury types walking past, but that drug deals happen in sight of the kids. Drug dealers may walk past the grass the kids play football on, but then that's inevitable to some extent wherever you live, cos there's loads of dealers... The point is that people don't actually deal in front of where the kids play football at the moment. The same applies with perverts/paedos. Over to you.[/p][/quote]My main point, which you have totally missed, is that it is an individual parent's responsibility to care and protect their own children. People moan about a nanny state yet these feckless women are actually demanding that their offspring are allowed to annoy and irritate other members of their community because they cannot be bothered to interact with their own children. Do these women think that the bad people stop at the park? If the park is bad then the area will be bad. Do children know a drug deal is going down if one person passes another something? Why not take your kids to the park and make a note of all the drug dealers and paedos and inform the police and make the park a safer place? No...because this takes effort and a bit of community spirit which these whingers profess to have but don't actually possess. Whilst they are playing football on this bit of grass do the mums watch from their windows and keep an eye on them? No...because it would mean missing a bit of telly. I have several children, all of whom I have taken to the park. I realise this has meant me having to get off my backside at regular intervals but that's part and parcel of being a parent. It has also helps me keep fit and well. This the-world-owes-me-a- living attitude is why we're in the state we are. They're YOUR kids. If you can't get them to the designated place for legally playing football then form a group to make a rota and take it in turns. Don't expect anyone to think it ok to make old folk's lives a misery because of your laziness and absolute gall. John Lamb
  • Score: 4

4:31pm Mon 23 Jul 12

John Lamb says...

Also, these children are as likely to be abducted from this grassy area as they are in the park i.e. not very likely statistically.
I also find the use of paedophiles to warrant laziness, totally inappropriate.
Also, these children are as likely to be abducted from this grassy area as they are in the park i.e. not very likely statistically. I also find the use of paedophiles to warrant laziness, totally inappropriate. John Lamb
  • Score: 3

4:38pm Mon 23 Jul 12

kaydensmummy says...

my last say on the matter because quite frankly i have better things to do but what your actually missing out is that its not the land the parents want they want the garden back !!!!!
my last say on the matter because quite frankly i have better things to do but what your actually missing out is that its not the land the parents want they want the garden back !!!!! kaydensmummy
  • Score: -4

4:42pm Mon 23 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

GTS kiddy wrote:
Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
Dilligaf2010 wrote:
doggiedoggie wrote:
GTS kiddy wrote:
For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy,
Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!!
well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.
These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.
they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?
-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy.
I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!!
I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that.
We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely.
Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ??
People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!!
"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely".........
..........you are joking, surely?
Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?
It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.
obv i was joking yes.
It is up to parents to keep an eye on their own children.
But I dont think at 10 years old parents should have to escort the children to the park because of drug dealers, etc.... and older kids and dog mess!!
also as I ws saying before if you have a younger child in the park would you want a couple of youngsters kicking a ball around? poor kids cant do anything right nowadays. give them a bit of green for playing footy a park with swings etc for the others. and for gods sake people stop being so negative and miserable. life is too short, not everyone is equal, just deal with it!!
"poor kids cant do anything right nowadays. give them a bit of green for playing footy a park with swings etc for the others".........
.........the park is a fairly large area, plenty of room to kick a ball about, without having to go near the swings etc.
I agree, life's too short, but it's even shorter for parents that would rather sit on their arses watching TV and drinking, than taking their kids out to play football.
I agree, not everyone is equal, but these parents seem to think they're more equal than others, and therefore entitled to more.
[quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whopper w/o Pickle Cornmarket St[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dilligaf2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]doggiedoggie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GTS kiddy[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake you lot, everybody moans that all kids do nowadays is sit in on games consoles and computers and these kids are making the effort to go out and get some exercise, We were all kids once, I played in the street when I was young and never got into trouble, People nowadays are so miserable and grumpy, Please let the kids play football as llong as they not damaging anything then let them be!!![/p][/quote]well said i'm behind the parents 100% the children are asking for some where to play safley as a parent of 3 my children had no where to play when they were little it only takes 1 to spoil what they had.[/p][/quote]These kids have somewhere to play, but their parents aren't willing to take them there.[/p][/quote]they are not willing mmmmmmmmmmmm with the amount of dog poop in parks these days & the older kids with their dogs i would want my kids close to home i myself have seen drug deals but what is the point of saying anything because nothing gets done ! Dare i say about missing children that have been found dead because their parents let them out & some1 took them. This argument is going to be on going for a long time. 1 question why did the council put young family's in up stairs flats ?[/p][/quote]-18 for my original post. you people are all so miserable and grumpy. I bet you have all forgotten you were young once and needed somewhere to play!! I feel sorry for kids nowadays. Cos they not allowed to do this not allowed to do that. We have kids playing footy in our street a few people moan. But they forget their kids did it when they were younger! Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely. Also. If you have taken your 2 or 3 year old to the swings would u want someone in there kicking a football about. ?? People nowadays are so miserable and selfish!![/p][/quote]"Maybe the councils should hire a security guard for all parks now so the younger kids can go there safely"......... ..........you are joking, surely? Why should the council provide a security guard to do something that parents can do, are you living on cloud cuckoo land?[/p][/quote]It is not a security guard that is needed. It is for TVP to do their job. There have been accusations made here that are very serious, yet no comment from TVP, either they are happy for the park to be used for purposes other than the specified ones, or the parents on here are lying. I see signs up all over Oxford saying that Oxford City Council and TVP are monitoring this area for signs of Illegal Drugs, Alcohol, and activity of a Sexual Nature, so obviously they are just bogus and none of our publicly shared areas are actually made safe for all to use. As regards to this story I do not know the park in question, but I know children. And they will happily walk and run miles for an area to play a decent game of football (and I hope in the summer Cricket) so for this park to be off bounds there must be a real reason. So instead of all the slagging off, how about TVP doing the rounds for a few evenings and seeing if the park is in fact safe or not.[/p][/quote]obv i was joking yes. It is up to parents to keep an eye on their own children. But I dont think at 10 years old parents should have to escort the children to the park because of drug dealers, etc.... and older kids and dog mess!! also as I ws saying before if you have a younger child in the park would you want a couple of youngsters kicking a ball around? poor kids cant do anything right nowadays. give them a bit of green for playing footy a park with swings etc for the others. and for gods sake people stop being so negative and miserable. life is too short, not everyone is equal, just deal with it!![/p][/quote]"poor kids cant do anything right nowadays. give them a bit of green for playing footy a park with swings etc for the others"......... .........the park is a fairly large area, plenty of room to kick a ball about, without having to go near the swings etc. I agree, life's too short, but it's even shorter for parents that would rather sit on their arses watching TV and drinking, than taking their kids out to play football. I agree, not everyone is equal, but these parents seem to think they're more equal than others, and therefore entitled to more. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 4

4:50pm Mon 23 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

kaydensmummy wrote:
my last say on the matter because quite frankly i have better things to do but what your actually missing out is that its not the land the parents want they want the garden back !!!!!
Ah, so this article is nothing to do with kids not being able to play football, the parents want the garden, which is there, but has never been theirs, back.
How stupid of us all, I don't know how I managed to get it wrong, I've got an IQ of 145 (Top 1% of the country), and I was convinced the argument was about a ban on ball games.
[quote][p][bold]kaydensmummy[/bold] wrote: my last say on the matter because quite frankly i have better things to do but what your actually missing out is that its not the land the parents want they want the garden back !!!!![/p][/quote]Ah, so this article is nothing to do with kids not being able to play football, the parents want the garden, which is there, but has never been theirs, back. How stupid of us all, I don't know how I managed to get it wrong, I've got an IQ of 145 (Top 1% of the country), and I was convinced the argument was about a ban on ball games. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 2

5:37pm Mon 23 Jul 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

169 Comments, this one's going to run forever ;-)
169 Comments, this one's going to run forever ;-) Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 1

5:43pm Mon 23 Jul 12

Captain J says...

I'll help!

Dilligaf, I require immediate proof of your claimed IQ of 145. From your posts I'd say your IQ was 142 TOPS.
I'll help! Dilligaf, I require immediate proof of your claimed IQ of 145. From your posts I'd say your IQ was 142 TOPS. Captain J
  • Score: 1

6:29pm Mon 23 Jul 12

simplicissimus says...

noodles78 wrote:
have some respect for the elderly!!!!! dont make me laugh, u tell me y these kids should show respect to someone who opens their door and says stop kickin ur f****ng football in my garden and im phonin the f****ng council about u, answer that cos when i was younger i was taught to show respect to people who gave u respect!
Were you a victim of Labour's "new learning", noodles78? You tend to major on your "rights", rather than on what always should come first, ie our familial and social obligations. Initially, children should always, generally and by default, respect adults.

Pupils who mistakenly think that adults and even their teachers need to earn their (the children's) respect 1st, are living in the topsy-turvy world of Leftist "child-centred" teacher training dogma, which is yet another reason why much of the comprehensive system is failing, why our schools are not working as well as they could, and why increasingly the tail wags the dog.

The result is often a lack of discipline and of respect for seniority, bad education, poor manners, ill-natured selfishness, or worse.
[quote][p][bold]noodles78[/bold] wrote: have some respect for the elderly!!!!! dont make me laugh, u tell me y these kids should show respect to someone who opens their door and says stop kickin ur f****ng football in my garden and im phonin the f****ng council about u, answer that cos when i was younger i was taught to show respect to people who gave u respect![/p][/quote]Were you a victim of Labour's "new learning", noodles78? You tend to major on your "rights", rather than on what always should come first, ie our familial and social obligations. Initially, children should always, generally and by default, respect adults. Pupils who mistakenly think that adults and even their teachers need to earn their (the children's) respect 1st, are living in the topsy-turvy world of Leftist "child-centred" teacher training dogma, which is yet another reason why much of the comprehensive system is failing, why our schools are not working as well as they could, and why increasingly the tail wags the dog. The result is often a lack of discipline and of respect for seniority, bad education, poor manners, ill-natured selfishness, or worse. simplicissimus
  • Score: 4

8:55am Tue 24 Jul 12

## Nonny Mouse ## says...

^this.

Nail on head.
^this. Nail on head. ## Nonny Mouse ##
  • Score: 3

12:06am Mon 6 Aug 12

noodles78 says...

i have been unable to comment for a while as i have had no internet access but just to let all u people moaning about the parentsknow, as one of the parents involved i have been to the park numerous occasions with my 3 children, we have had to leave the park due to broken glass everywhere and some delightful human thought it would be ok to take a dump under the baby slide...... i informed the council and a week later there is still glass everywhere and one of the neighbours cleaned the other stuff up, i have photos of this glass etc and will be ringing the council for a 3rd time in the morning......... as for being lazy, im far from it, i would love to be able to spend hours at the park with my kids but my illness prevents this, my partner suffers with a bad hip and is unable to spend hours at park and my only other family is my mum who is disabled herself...........i have no choice about where i live and had it not been for a troublesome ex i wouldnt be where i am now so maybe u should all think about wots goin on behind the scenes before u judge us parents!!!!!
i have been unable to comment for a while as i have had no internet access but just to let all u people moaning about the parentsknow, as one of the parents involved i have been to the park numerous occasions with my 3 children, we have had to leave the park due to broken glass everywhere and some delightful human thought it would be ok to take a dump under the baby slide...... i informed the council and a week later there is still glass everywhere and one of the neighbours cleaned the other stuff up, i have photos of this glass etc and will be ringing the council for a 3rd time in the morning......... as for being lazy, im far from it, i would love to be able to spend hours at the park with my kids but my illness prevents this, my partner suffers with a bad hip and is unable to spend hours at park and my only other family is my mum who is disabled herself...........i have no choice about where i live and had it not been for a troublesome ex i wouldnt be where i am now so maybe u should all think about wots goin on behind the scenes before u judge us parents!!!!! noodles78
  • Score: -2

8:14am Mon 6 Aug 12

Simplizissimus says...

noodles78, many of us regularly pick litter in our localities. Direct action often works best. (Not that I exonerate Oxford shCity council.) Use a bag, gloves, and remove the offending items. Hey, presto: safe play area. Simples.
noodles78, many of us regularly pick litter in our localities. Direct action often works best. (Not that I exonerate Oxford shCity council.) Use a bag, gloves, and remove the offending items. Hey, presto: safe play area. Simples. Simplizissimus
  • Score: 2

9:50am Mon 6 Aug 12

Dilligaf2010 says...

"we have had to leave the park due to broken glass everywhere and some delightful human thought it would be ok to take a dump under the baby slide"

.........broken glass everywhere, wow that must've taken somebody hours, and I'd love to know how they got all the glass there, someone must've seen the truck that delivered it.
........how can you be so sure it was human excrement under the slide. it could've been a large dog's.
"we have had to leave the park due to broken glass everywhere and some delightful human thought it would be ok to take a dump under the baby slide" .........broken glass everywhere, wow that must've taken somebody hours, and I'd love to know how they got all the glass there, someone must've seen the truck that delivered it. ........how can you be so sure it was human excrement under the slide. it could've been a large dog's. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 1

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