Is this the same caring Oxford Mail that scoffed at those who criticised charities for releasing helium filled balloons? The same balloons that kill numerous animals, including Common Dolphin, Risso's Dolphin, Loggerhead Turtle, Leatherback Turtle, Blue Shark and many species of bird.
Latex balloons take up to five years to degrade. Even the National Farmers Union, not exactly known for their compassion to animals speak out against the damage these balloons cause.
The hypocrisy of the Oxford Mail, is at times breathtaking. Perhaps if the animals killed by the balloons were a bit more cuddly!

G'day. You know one of the really nice things about doing this job are all the lovely little animals you come across.
Over here for example is a cute little guinea pig.
Ahh look at him all curled up in a little furry ball there.
Sadly this guinea pig has a touch of in one of his paws.You know what we're going to do with him? Mmm?
We're gonna put him down.
BAM!!
And over here is a little girl who's bought along a lovely little kitten. What's the matter with the cuddly little thing? He's got tummy ache? Ahh that's awful. Know what we're gonna do? Make him better? Nah, Put him down!!
BAM!!!!!

G'day. You know one of the really nice things about doing this job are all the lovely little animals you come across.
Over here for example is a cute little guinea pig.
Ahh look at him all curled up in a little furry ball there.
Sadly this guinea pig has a touch of in one of his paws.You know what we're going to do with him? Mmm?
We're gonna put him down.
BAM!!
And over here is a little girl who's bought along a lovely little kitten. What's the matter with the cuddly little thing? He's got tummy ache? Ahh that's awful. Know what we're gonna do? Make him better? Nah, Put him down!!
BAM!!!!!

Ello' me dearios. Farmer Giles 'ere. You know with the cold weather upon us it's really important that you keep your livestock nice and warm over the Winter Months.
Over here is where I keeps me sheeps look. Ah look there's still a couple of them asleep in the corner there. Isn't that a lovely sight?
Of course they won't be sleeping much longer, they're all off to the old knackers yard this afternoon so I can pull the barn down and build luxury flats.
That's the only way I can make a living these days!!

Tchah!! I see some revolting litle scumbag still fids it funny to laugh at animal cruelty. Can't they realise that animals have feelings too?

By the way if your wife is pregnant and the scans show it could be a bit on the disabled side, let me know and I'll put you in touch with some good aborion clinics.
Life today is just too complicated without having it messed up more by some drooling spastic who's contribution to the econmoic grand scheme is likely to be nil!!

Strange the double standards people have. If someone is caught being cruel to their dog or cat they will most likely be prosecuted. However, extremists working in vivisection laboratories are able to scald, starve, burn and carry out all sorts of horrific experiments on dogs, cats, monkeys etc using no anesthetics, with complete impunity,knowing they will not be prosecuted.

Don wrote:
Strange the double standards people have. If someone is caught being cruel to their dog or cat they will most likely be prosecuted. However, extremists working in vivisection laboratories are able to scald, starve, burn and carry out all sorts of horrific experiments on dogs, cats, monkeys etc using no anesthetics, with complete impunity,knowing they will not be prosecuted.

And you have actually seen all this first hand?
You have actually been inside a laboratory?
Oddly enough ethics committees have largely put a stop to the crap that was going on 40 years ago.
It is simply that Peter "right to life extends to rats but not to the unborn foetus if it is disabled" Singer's followers are so caught up in their sick imaginations that the past 40 years have passed them by somewhat.
Interesting to see that if you check up Peter Singer in "Wikipedia" his subscribers include ALF and SPEAK.
I suppose it is ignorance on their parts that they have no ojections to his views on abortion.
It merely confirms that their subscrptions to him are selective and emotional rather than objective and rational.

Yes Alan, I have seen it first hand. Have you?

Alan Page is a monster. He is someone who would enjoy torture on animals as every time there is a topic on here about htem, he quite literally goes raging mad. Alan - you really are someone who has a chip on their shoulder.

Don wrote:
Yes Alan, I have seen it first hand. Have you?

Please name the laboratory and the time and length of your employment there.
Please also explain why you have not reported these illegal activities to the police .
Of course we should be grateful that Singer does support the abortion of disabled children would be too much if his supporters were bombing abortion clinics as well.
A lot of people would argue that the psychological effects of abortion are pretty harrowing and cruel. SPUC is worth a look on that score, it does throw the entire "cruelty" issue into a new perspective though.

Olive wrote:
Alan Page is a monster. He is someone who would enjoy torture on animals as every time there is a topic on here about htem, he quite literally goes raging mad. Alan - you really are someone who has a chip on their shoulder.

Couldn't agree more; Alan Page is one seriously f**ked up individual.
Having read most of his posts on this website he seems to pour scorn on something one minute and then heap praise on it the next, and if anyone dares disagree with him he hurls childish insults at them.
He is obviously someone with no life and nothing better to do than put the the world to rights from the safety of his bedroom, spouting out some ill-thought out and incoherent crap. A very sad little individual indeed (let's see what pathetic response I get to this, which will just prove my point!)

alan page wrote:

Don wrote: Yes Alan, I have seen it first hand. Have you?

Please name the laboratory and the time and length of your employment there. Please also explain why you have not reported these illegal activities to the police . Of course we should be grateful that Singer does support the abortion of disabled children would be too much if his supporters were bombing abortion clinics as well. A lot of people would argue that the psychological effects of abortion are pretty harrowing and cruel. SPUC is worth a look on that score, it does throw the entire "cruelty" issue into a new perspective though.

Mmm don't seem to have had much of a response on this one, yet.
I will be patient though.

I worked in a commercial testing laboratory for between 5 to 8 years. My employment terminated between 2 to 5 years ago. I am being deliberately vague to protect my identity. My first task at the laboratory was to wash cages, use the autoclave and clean the animal houses out. In my case, this was beagles and primates. I studied to be a Registered Animal Technician. I always treated the animals with care and compassion, for this I was mocked by my fellow workers. I frequently witnessed macaque monkeys being dragged terrified from their cages, attempting to scratch and bite in fear, then hit around their heads in temper by my co-workers. I also witnessed tubes being pushed down primates throats so roughly that teeth were knocked out and in one instance a wind pipe was ruptured.
I believe that after a while, people handling the animals become desensitised and this leads to acts of cruelty. I also saw results from tests being falsified.
I was so upset at what I was seeing I phoned the RSPCA. They told me that they had no lawful right to investigate reported acts of cruelty in animal laboratories. When a government inspector visited the laboratory I was working in, which incidentally we were informed of in advance. I voiced my concerns to him and the next day when I turned into work was told that if I opened my mouth again I would be blacklisted and would never obtain a job in industry again. I resigned, but had it made clear to me that under U.K. law if I made public anything I had seen whilst working for this company I would face up to two years in prison. Due to my domestic circumstances, I dare not go public. I am deeply ashamed that I worked in what I would call an animal Auswitch. Yes Alan, I know only too well about the cruelties of vivisection.

Mr Page, A few days have past since I asked you to remove your soiled trousers from the J.R. outpatients. Your accident is nothing to be ashamed of. It is not unknown for people to loose control of their bowels. However, the smell in the outpatients is becoming unbearable. If it is easier for you, I could have them incinerated. This course of action would be the most hygienic.
Please do let me know what action to take.

Perhaps Alans trousers could be raffled for a good cause! What do people think?

If Alans trousers are full of s--t, perhaps they could be used as a sandbag the next time Oxford floods.

It aint only the trousers wots full of s--- is it Alan? I feels sorry for them ard workin nurses aving to put up with is trousers full of extrement. I does feel a bit sorry for Alan what with it all running out im like that. It was the diarrhea that carried the late Mr Magee off. Gawd bless is sole.

We could always use Alans trousers as a windsock. There is always a lot of s--- flying around here.

What colour are the trousers?

BROWN !?!?

When will people learn. Big business are only interested profits. Compassion for animals, human or non human do not enter the equation. Donate the obligatory pittance to charity to make sure the company looks good. Bah humbug

Don wrote:
I worked in a commercial testing laboratory for between 5 to 8 years. My employment terminated between 2 to 5 years ago. I am being deliberately vague to protect my identity. My first task at the laboratory was to wash cages, use the autoclave and clean the animal houses out. In my case, this was beagles and primates. I studied to be a Registered Animal Technician. I always treated the animals with care and compassion, for this I was mocked by my fellow workers. I frequently witnessed macaque monkeys being dragged terrified from their cages, attempting to scratch and bite in fear, then hit around their heads in temper by my co-workers. I also witnessed tubes being pushed down primates throats so roughly that teeth were knocked out and in one instance a wind pipe was ruptured. I believe that after a while, people handling the animals become desensitised and this leads to acts of cruelty. I also saw results from tests being falsified. I was so upset at what I was seeing I phoned the RSPCA. They told me that they had no lawful right to investigate reported acts of cruelty in animal laboratories. When a government inspector visited the laboratory I was working in, which incidentally we were informed of in advance. I voiced my concerns to him and the next day when I turned into work was told that if I opened my mouth again I would be blacklisted and would never obtain a job in industry again. I resigned, but had it made clear to me that under U.K. law if I made public anything I had seen whilst working for this company I would face up to two years in prison. Due to my domestic circumstances, I dare not go public. I am deeply ashamed that I worked in what I would call an animal Auswitch. Yes Alan, I know only too well about the cruelties of vivisection.

That's all very convenient I must say.
A lot of the scientists I have spoken too tell a totally different story.
Well we seem to have arrived at an impasse here.
I have the testimony of a "witness" who seems to be putting his own career prospects ahead of the concern he claim to have about animals.
Why did you not follow through and name the company involved and make videos and present them as evidence?
Is a job in "Industry" that important?
IF what you are saying is true then these scum should be closed down sharpish and dragged through the courts.
I would have thought two years in prison woould have been a price worth paying but still, it's your conscience not mine.
You say that the police don't intervene in such matters, well they could have done. Yet you put self interest in front of all the suffering animals.
You have only yourself to blame for
a)choosing such an industry
b)not calling upon your righteous friends support to forward a prosecution irrespective of personal cost.

Liam wrote:
When will people learn. Big business are only interested profits. Compassion for animals, human or non human do not enter the equation. Donate the obligatory pittance to charity to make sure the company looks good. Bah humbug

I totally agree.There are kids of 5 or 6 slaving away in sweat shops in 3rd world countries to supply the latest designer wear.

Columbia and the South Americas have been blighted and riven by civil war owing to the Bourgeois taste for Cocaine.Yet people are getting on their high horses about rodents whilst snorting away!!

There probably is a lot of desensitisation in any industry, even the so called "free range" farms are often only comparatively so.

Whether this is an acceptable excuse for firebombing and persecuting people is another question altogether.

Either take it through the courts or accept the reality!!

The only valid responsible option is vegetarianism. I have absolutely no bones with people who have opted out of the system in that way.

It is why I question the validity of those who persecute fox hunters whilst tucking into a Lamb cassarole.

A coutry who's economy rests on meat production has little to it can say about animal welfare. Once you have accepted that sentient beings can be commodfied then you have defeated yourself before you even start.
But if you regard "freedom to choose" as the defining factor in modern life then you have to accept that people like meat.

Has your cat been done?
If not why not call us here at Castra cat kits, quick, clean and readily disposable.
Cheaper than a quick snip with a vets scissors but more expensive than a kick in the crutch.
Give us ring now and as an introductory offer we will give you back your cats gonads in a special silver plated display case.

This is the first time I have posted, so hope I am doing it properly.
After browsing through this website and reading many of the comments, some humorous and some serious. I was shocked by the fact that one man could be responsible for so many postings full of bitterness and hatred as Alan Page.
You must have had a terrible childhood to carry such a chip on your shoulders.
I don't mean to be nasty Alan, but you should consider having counseling.

Please do not scoff at Mr Page. He could be in need of psychiatric help. Please try to show him love and understanding.

Passionate hatred gives meaning and purpose to Alan's empty life. Haunted by the purposelessness of his life, he tries to find a new content not only by sitting in front of his computer churning out bile and hatred but also by nursing a fanatical grievance.
When postings on this website casts serious doubts on his cherished beliefs he feels that his whole Universe is threatened. Unfortunately, it is impossible to logically reason with people like this.

Jane Anderson wrote:
This is the first time I have posted, so hope I am doing it properly. After browsing through this website and reading many of the comments, some humorous and some serious. I was shocked by the fact that one man could be responsible for so many postings full of bitterness and hatred as Alan Page. You must have had a terrible childhood to carry such a chip on your shoulders. I don't mean to be nasty Alan, but you should consider having counseling.

North Oxford??
Says it all really.

Alan, Perhaps I am missing something, but what does living in North Oxford have to say?

Jane, Welcome to the O.M. website. Please do not let Alan Page upset you. His problems do tend to make him bitter.

alan page is 1 sad lonely f**ker do every1 a favor n f**k off nob!!!!

alan page wrote:

Don wrote: I worked in a commercial testing laboratory for between 5 to 8 years. My employment terminated between 2 to 5 years ago. I am being deliberately vague to protect my identity. My first task at the laboratory was to wash cages, use the autoclave and clean the animal houses out. In my case, this was beagles and primates. I studied to be a Registered Animal Technician. I always treated the animals with care and compassion, for this I was mocked by my fellow workers. I frequently witnessed macaque monkeys being dragged terrified from their cages, attempting to scratch and bite in fear, then hit around their heads in temper by my co-workers. I also witnessed tubes being pushed down primates throats so roughly that teeth were knocked out and in one instance a wind pipe was ruptured. I believe that after a while, people handling the animals become desensitised and this leads to acts of cruelty. I also saw results from tests being falsified. I was so upset at what I was seeing I phoned the RSPCA. They told me that they had no lawful right to investigate reported acts of cruelty in animal laboratories. When a government inspector visited the laboratory I was working in, which incidentally we were informed of in advance. I voiced my concerns to him and the next day when I turned into work was told that if I opened my mouth again I would be blacklisted and would never obtain a job in industry again. I resigned, but had it made clear to me that under U.K. law if I made public anything I had seen whilst working for this company I would face up to two years in prison. Due to my domestic circumstances, I dare not go public. I am deeply ashamed that I worked in what I would call an animal Auswitch. Yes Alan, I know only too well about the cruelties of vivisection.

That\'s all very convenient I must say. A lot of the scientists I have spoken too tell a totally different story. Well we seem to have arrived at an impasse here. I have the testimony of a \"witness\" who seems to be putting his own career prospects ahead of the concern he claim to have about animals. Why did you not follow through and name the company involved and make videos and present them as evidence? Is a job in \"Industry\" that important? IF what you are saying is true then these scum should be closed down sharpish and dragged through the courts. I would have thought two years in prison woould have been a price worth paying but still, it\'s your conscience not mine. You say that the police don\'t intervene in such matters, well they could have done. Yet you put self interest in front of all the suffering animals. You have only yourself to blame for a)choosing such an industry b)not calling upon your righteous friends support to forward a prosecution irrespective of personal cost.

To Alan
Don’t you think it’s a bit low to criticise a man, who in this case could not stand up to a cooperate business that could indeed blacklist him from work ever again? He has written his first hand experience at working in these places and you try to diminish it with your second hand versions from other members of the public who you happen to know personally. What is to say that those people may possibly gloss over the actual going’s on in such a place while recounting it to you as they can see how well you discriminate against members of the public that you don’t know, god forbid what you would say to acquaintances you do.
Now, if this gentleman had actually gone into detail, given you names, numbers, dates of everything that went on, would you then take it upon yourself as the animal champion you seem to think and do something about it yourself? Have you ever been in a predicament where you yourself have been blackmailed? Ever chosen a wrong decision in hind sight which in fact you believed you could make a difference like this man by caring for the animals under his care while he was there? No, I suppose not, because that then would make you a victim and I'm sure that you have never been victimised or bullied in your life. The reason, how can someone who enjoys the torment of others consider himself to be a victim?
To be perfectly honest this is my first time on here and this is the first thread that I have seen your work. It really just looks like you sit there picking an argument with anyone, it doesn’t even matter if your views personally might be the same, you seem to take the opposite argument and try to provoke a response, and the thing is you win. Congratulations, you seem to have won again.

But in all this you seem to have mistaken where this thread is. This thread is attached to the Animal Adoption page. Don’t you think promoting adopting unwanted animals would be a better use of everyone’s time then a written slagging match?