New West Way development would be ‘visually intrusive’ on Green Belt

thisisoxfordshire: Helen Marshall of the Oxfordshire branch of Campaign for Rural England Helen Marshall of the Oxfordshire branch of Campaign for Rural England

THE Campaign to Protect Rural England has claimed the £100m West Way redevelopment proposals for Botley would intrude on Oxford’s famous skyline.

In a last-minute intervention, the group said the new shopping centre Doric Properties wants to build would affect the Green Belt by being “visually intrusive”. The centre would feature a new supermarket, cinema, cafes and hotel.

In a statement to Vale of White Horse planners, CPRE Oxfordshire director Helen Marshall, said: “It would be visually intrusive on the Green Belt, thereby significantly compromising its landscape and visual amenity.

“It is also likely that it would be visible as an intrusive element in the backdrop of views of the city's famous skyline as seen from South Park and the rolling hill-and-vale skyline that forms the topographic setting of Oxford.”

The statement comes as opponents of the West Way scheme made their last formal statements to Vale’s district council before the application is brought to the planning committee.

North Hinksey Parish Council and campaigners of West Way Concern both strongly oppose the development and claim it would have a negative visual impact on the Botley area and bring too much extra traffic to its roads.

But Simon Hillcox, joint owner of Doric Properties, said: “The regeneration of Botley will bring brand new shopping, leisure and community facilities and create approximately 480 jobs, as well as 600 in the construction phase.

“Change on this scale requires careful consideration, which is why we undertook a year-long consultation with the local community and produced an environmental statement.”

Meanwhile, supermarket giant the Cooperative has revealed it is reviewing the West Way plans.

The shopping centre neighbours a Co-op Food store, as well as a Tesco Express and the Oxford Mail understands the Co-op may object to Doric’s proposals.

A spokeswoman for the Midcounties Cooperative would not confirm the claim, but said: “We are reviewing the proposals and are not in a position to comment further at this stage.”

A decision is expected to be made on the plans by August 31.





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6:59am Thu 26 Jun 14

Andrew:Oxford says...

Here we go again...

The notorious Oxford(shire) faction of the CPRE attempting to stop change in Oxford, well Botley.

I'm absolutely confident that the magnificent spire of Seacourt will still be visible from Botley after the redevelopment.
Here we go again... The notorious Oxford(shire) faction of the CPRE attempting to stop change in Oxford, well Botley. I'm absolutely confident that the magnificent spire of Seacourt will still be visible from Botley after the redevelopment. Andrew:Oxford
  • Score: 6

7:29am Thu 26 Jun 14

Sandy Wimpole-Smythe says...

So where exactly CPRE Oxfordshire would you suggest we build new developments and much needed housing, the moon, oh wait that too might be visible on a clear night with a telescope.
So where exactly CPRE Oxfordshire would you suggest we build new developments and much needed housing, the moon, oh wait that too might be visible on a clear night with a telescope. Sandy Wimpole-Smythe
  • Score: 4

8:29am Thu 26 Jun 14

Dilligaf2010 says...

What a load of twaddle!
What a load of twaddle! Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 7

9:07am Thu 26 Jun 14

middleton kidlington says...

If the people for Botley want to stay in the past and do not want redevelop Botley Please come to Kidlington with desperate for it.
If the people for Botley want to stay in the past and do not want redevelop Botley Please come to Kidlington with desperate for it. middleton kidlington
  • Score: 1

10:42am Thu 26 Jun 14

The Foxy Lady says...

Oh dear, always the first to say anything are the commenters who always attack CPRE and any issue over development. As a born and bred Botley girl, I may have a comment or two as well. POLLUTION is killng us already with the notorious Botley Road. It is at a standstill seven days a week. A Cinema, do we really need one, it's 5 mins bus journey to the nearest. A supermarket, well if they take ever other little shop away we do have, we will need one, but it also takes away the 'feel' of Botley, we do not all want to keep shopping at drive by, all the same looking, soul less places. A huge fly in the ointment is the addition of a hotel and 600 student rooms. That's not devleoping a shopping centre, that is developing housing. We have NOT developed the surrounding infrastructure. Life is getting busier, noisier, far less friendlier and so monotone really. All the individuality and quietness now being eaten up. We need countryside and CPRE to retain our green lungs. Please could the earlier commenters tell me what they forsee if they imagine this:- We have covered up everything, there is not one small tiny piece of green land left. Houses are stacked so close together, you know your next door neighbours intimitely and bad luck if their horrid. Pollution is so bad you have to wear a mask to breathe. I for one need to see the fields, breathe cleaner air and have some quiet time. Doric is just another development, another big splat on Botley. And all over Britain, if you have travelled around the country recently, there are swathes of the countryside being buried and this is just the start. HS2 next and then, really what happens when it is all gone? Doric, or any other devleoper does it for the money. You can;t buy quiet and you can;t buy fresh air. Unfortunately you can buy britain and it's future is not nice.
Oh dear, always the first to say anything are the commenters who always attack CPRE and any issue over development. As a born and bred Botley girl, I may have a comment or two as well. POLLUTION is killng us already with the notorious Botley Road. It is at a standstill seven days a week. A Cinema, do we really need one, it's 5 mins bus journey to the nearest. A supermarket, well if they take ever other little shop away we do have, we will need one, but it also takes away the 'feel' of Botley, we do not all want to keep shopping at drive by, all the same looking, soul less places. A huge fly in the ointment is the addition of a hotel and 600 student rooms. That's not devleoping a shopping centre, that is developing housing. We have NOT developed the surrounding infrastructure. Life is getting busier, noisier, far less friendlier and so monotone really. All the individuality and quietness now being eaten up. We need countryside and CPRE to retain our green lungs. Please could the earlier commenters tell me what they forsee if they imagine this:- We have covered up everything, there is not one small tiny piece of green land left. Houses are stacked so close together, you know your next door neighbours intimitely and bad luck if their horrid. Pollution is so bad you have to wear a mask to breathe. I for one need to see the fields, breathe cleaner air and have some quiet time. Doric is just another development, another big splat on Botley. And all over Britain, if you have travelled around the country recently, there are swathes of the countryside being buried and this is just the start. HS2 next and then, really what happens when it is all gone? Doric, or any other devleoper does it for the money. You can;t buy quiet and you can;t buy fresh air. Unfortunately you can buy britain and it's future is not nice. The Foxy Lady
  • Score: 0

11:08am Thu 26 Jun 14

Sandy Wimpole-Smythe says...

The Foxy Lady wrote:
Oh dear, always the first to say anything are the commenters who always attack CPRE and any issue over development. As a born and bred Botley girl, I may have a comment or two as well. POLLUTION is killng us already with the notorious Botley Road. It is at a standstill seven days a week. A Cinema, do we really need one, it's 5 mins bus journey to the nearest. A supermarket, well if they take ever other little shop away we do have, we will need one, but it also takes away the 'feel' of Botley, we do not all want to keep shopping at drive by, all the same looking, soul less places. A huge fly in the ointment is the addition of a hotel and 600 student rooms. That's not devleoping a shopping centre, that is developing housing. We have NOT developed the surrounding infrastructure. Life is getting busier, noisier, far less friendlier and so monotone really. All the individuality and quietness now being eaten up. We need countryside and CPRE to retain our green lungs. Please could the earlier commenters tell me what they forsee if they imagine this:- We have covered up everything, there is not one small tiny piece of green land left. Houses are stacked so close together, you know your next door neighbours intimitely and bad luck if their horrid. Pollution is so bad you have to wear a mask to breathe. I for one need to see the fields, breathe cleaner air and have some quiet time. Doric is just another development, another big splat on Botley. And all over Britain, if you have travelled around the country recently, there are swathes of the countryside being buried and this is just the start. HS2 next and then, really what happens when it is all gone? Doric, or any other devleoper does it for the money. You can;t buy quiet and you can;t buy fresh air. Unfortunately you can buy britain and it's future is not nice.
Perhaps if CPRE could come up with some viable suggestions as to what 'should be done' people would stop and listen, as they stand now they simply object to everything.
[quote][p][bold]The Foxy Lady[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, always the first to say anything are the commenters who always attack CPRE and any issue over development. As a born and bred Botley girl, I may have a comment or two as well. POLLUTION is killng us already with the notorious Botley Road. It is at a standstill seven days a week. A Cinema, do we really need one, it's 5 mins bus journey to the nearest. A supermarket, well if they take ever other little shop away we do have, we will need one, but it also takes away the 'feel' of Botley, we do not all want to keep shopping at drive by, all the same looking, soul less places. A huge fly in the ointment is the addition of a hotel and 600 student rooms. That's not devleoping a shopping centre, that is developing housing. We have NOT developed the surrounding infrastructure. Life is getting busier, noisier, far less friendlier and so monotone really. All the individuality and quietness now being eaten up. We need countryside and CPRE to retain our green lungs. Please could the earlier commenters tell me what they forsee if they imagine this:- We have covered up everything, there is not one small tiny piece of green land left. Houses are stacked so close together, you know your next door neighbours intimitely and bad luck if their horrid. Pollution is so bad you have to wear a mask to breathe. I for one need to see the fields, breathe cleaner air and have some quiet time. Doric is just another development, another big splat on Botley. And all over Britain, if you have travelled around the country recently, there are swathes of the countryside being buried and this is just the start. HS2 next and then, really what happens when it is all gone? Doric, or any other devleoper does it for the money. You can;t buy quiet and you can;t buy fresh air. Unfortunately you can buy britain and it's future is not nice.[/p][/quote]Perhaps if CPRE could come up with some viable suggestions as to what 'should be done' people would stop and listen, as they stand now they simply object to everything. Sandy Wimpole-Smythe
  • Score: 6

11:09am Thu 26 Jun 14

The Foxy Lady says...

Oh yes, me again, a bit more to spout! I spoke to Simon Hillcox of Doric when he was mingling with us at the first ever showing of the plans in Botley. I asked him why they intend to close Field House down and put a cinema on top of it. He told me that there would be consideration for the elderely who live there being moved elsewhere. mmm. he also told me his elderely mother was in a care home. Well really SDimon, she is not being scared to death by being moved is she? Can you imagine being in your late 70's - late 90's and your home being taken away. Also for the people that can walk a little way, Field House is purposely by the shops, so people can retain their independence and totter over to the shops.

Also Simon keeps bragging about the amount of new jobs, but he fails to mention the amount of jobs losses and loss of businessess. What about them.

And as for the person above who is desperate for Kidlington be developed, I'm sure if it was, he would like it to be in keeping with the area and what the local people would like to see. Improvement is one thing, total squashing of an areas soul is another. Everyone in Botley unanimously agreed it needs improvement, not total destruction to make way for homes, cinema etc. Casting out the elderleyy folk from their homes is not on.

So it's invetiable we will have what doric plan, no one will be able to visit because the roads will be gridlocked. The old folk in Field House will all be gone, and 24/7 cinema etc and hotel will be the norm.

There are two types of development. OVER and SYMPATHETIC. Doricd chose the OVER.

Still, to all you folk who call people like me a NIMBY. I love old and new, sympathetic development that helps people get onto the housing list great. BUT greed is making darn sure this country is being over congested and as humans we really do need space, it's part of our way of staying sane.

Spout over.
Oh yes, me again, a bit more to spout! I spoke to Simon Hillcox of Doric when he was mingling with us at the first ever showing of the plans in Botley. I asked him why they intend to close Field House down and put a cinema on top of it. He told me that there would be consideration for the elderely who live there being moved elsewhere. mmm. he also told me his elderely mother was in a care home. Well really SDimon, she is not being scared to death by being moved is she? Can you imagine being in your late 70's - late 90's and your home being taken away. Also for the people that can walk a little way, Field House is purposely by the shops, so people can retain their independence and totter over to the shops. Also Simon keeps bragging about the amount of new jobs, but he fails to mention the amount of jobs losses and loss of businessess. What about them. And as for the person above who is desperate for Kidlington be developed, I'm sure if it was, he would like it to be in keeping with the area and what the local people would like to see. Improvement is one thing, total squashing of an areas soul is another. Everyone in Botley unanimously agreed it needs improvement, not total destruction to make way for homes, cinema etc. Casting out the elderleyy folk from their homes is not on. So it's invetiable we will have what doric plan, no one will be able to visit because the roads will be gridlocked. The old folk in Field House will all be gone, and 24/7 cinema etc and hotel will be the norm. There are two types of development. OVER and SYMPATHETIC. Doricd chose the OVER. Still, to all you folk who call people like me a NIMBY. I love old and new, sympathetic development that helps people get onto the housing list great. BUT greed is making darn sure this country is being over congested and as humans we really do need space, it's part of our way of staying sane. Spout over. The Foxy Lady
  • Score: 1

1:22pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Andrew:Oxford says...

The Foxy Lady wrote:
Oh dear, always the first to say anything are the commenters who always attack CPRE and any issue over development. As a born and bred Botley girl, I may have a comment or two as well. POLLUTION is killng us already with the notorious Botley Road. It is at a standstill seven days a week. A Cinema, do we really need one, it's 5 mins bus journey to the nearest. A supermarket, well if they take ever other little shop away we do have, we will need one, but it also takes away the 'feel' of Botley, we do not all want to keep shopping at drive by, all the same looking, soul less places. A huge fly in the ointment is the addition of a hotel and 600 student rooms. That's not devleoping a shopping centre, that is developing housing. We have NOT developed the surrounding infrastructure. Life is getting busier, noisier, far less friendlier and so monotone really. All the individuality and quietness now being eaten up. We need countryside and CPRE to retain our green lungs. Please could the earlier commenters tell me what they forsee if they imagine this:- We have covered up everything, there is not one small tiny piece of green land left. Houses are stacked so close together, you know your next door neighbours intimitely and bad luck if their horrid. Pollution is so bad you have to wear a mask to breathe. I for one need to see the fields, breathe cleaner air and have some quiet time. Doric is just another development, another big splat on Botley. And all over Britain, if you have travelled around the country recently, there are swathes of the countryside being buried and this is just the start. HS2 next and then, really what happens when it is all gone? Doric, or any other devleoper does it for the money. You can;t buy quiet and you can;t buy fresh air. Unfortunately you can buy britain and it's future is not nice.
You are clearly a bit confused.

In one sentence you are claiming that your life has been ruined due to standstill traffic on the Botley Road - then you claim you can jump on a bus in Botley and be at the Cinema in Magdalen Street in 5 minutes.

Then you can't tell the difference between a house and hotel.

Then you are demanding infrastructure - which is essentially roads, shops, hotels.

No part of the "countryside" is being developed at the Botley centre - it's late 20th century shopping, commercial and business development that is being redeveloped.

Keep paying your subscription to the CPRE if it makes you feel better though...
[quote][p][bold]The Foxy Lady[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, always the first to say anything are the commenters who always attack CPRE and any issue over development. As a born and bred Botley girl, I may have a comment or two as well. POLLUTION is killng us already with the notorious Botley Road. It is at a standstill seven days a week. A Cinema, do we really need one, it's 5 mins bus journey to the nearest. A supermarket, well if they take ever other little shop away we do have, we will need one, but it also takes away the 'feel' of Botley, we do not all want to keep shopping at drive by, all the same looking, soul less places. A huge fly in the ointment is the addition of a hotel and 600 student rooms. That's not devleoping a shopping centre, that is developing housing. We have NOT developed the surrounding infrastructure. Life is getting busier, noisier, far less friendlier and so monotone really. All the individuality and quietness now being eaten up. We need countryside and CPRE to retain our green lungs. Please could the earlier commenters tell me what they forsee if they imagine this:- We have covered up everything, there is not one small tiny piece of green land left. Houses are stacked so close together, you know your next door neighbours intimitely and bad luck if their horrid. Pollution is so bad you have to wear a mask to breathe. I for one need to see the fields, breathe cleaner air and have some quiet time. Doric is just another development, another big splat on Botley. And all over Britain, if you have travelled around the country recently, there are swathes of the countryside being buried and this is just the start. HS2 next and then, really what happens when it is all gone? Doric, or any other devleoper does it for the money. You can;t buy quiet and you can;t buy fresh air. Unfortunately you can buy britain and it's future is not nice.[/p][/quote]You are clearly a bit confused. In one sentence you are claiming that your life has been ruined due to standstill traffic on the Botley Road - then you claim you can jump on a bus in Botley and be at the Cinema in Magdalen Street in 5 minutes. Then you can't tell the difference between a house and hotel. Then you are demanding infrastructure - which is essentially roads, shops, hotels. No part of the "countryside" is being developed at the Botley centre - it's late 20th century shopping, commercial and business development that is being redeveloped. Keep paying your subscription to the CPRE if it makes you feel better though... Andrew:Oxford
  • Score: 1

12:01am Fri 27 Jun 14

Severian says...

Where were CPRE when Cherwell District Council announced plans to build a 5,000 (now 6,000) house "eco-town" in North West Bicester? I don't recall them slagging that development off - but then we can't see Oxford's gleaming spires from Bicester, so we don't count.
Where were CPRE when Cherwell District Council announced plans to build a 5,000 (now 6,000) house "eco-town" in North West Bicester? I don't recall them slagging that development off - but then we can't see Oxford's gleaming spires from Bicester, so we don't count. Severian
  • Score: 0

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