£30,000 boost for Eynsham cycle path into Oxford + Video

thisisoxfordshire: Bike Safe chairman Ian Leggett looks at plans for the cycle path with John Griffin and Graham Smith                           Pictures: OX63950 David Fleming Bike Safe chairman Ian Leggett looks at plans for the cycle path with John Griffin and Graham Smith Pictures: OX63950 David Fleming

PLANS for an Eynsham to Oxford cycle path are speeding up, thanks to a £30,000 cash injection.

Bike Safe has received £5,000 from Vale of the White Horse District Council and £25,000 from the Department for Communities and Local Government, after it applied for funding.

The proposed route would follow the A420 from Swinford roundabout, outside Eynsham, to Dean Court, Oxford, where it would link up with city cycle paths.

Group chairman and Farmoor resident Ian Leggett said the money would be spent on putting together detailed plans that could be submitted to the county council.

The father-of-three said: “We have been campaigning for this for a couple of years, so we are absolutely delighted.

“If we can secure funding for construction quickly enough then this could be ready to go before the end of the year.”

The group currently estimates the final cost will be about £1.25m.

Mr Leggett added: “Oxfordshire presents itself as the cycling centre of the UK but we spend far less on it than they do in London.

“That is disgraceful and needs to change.”

Farmoor councillor Janet Godden, of Oxfordshire County Council, said she would champion the scheme at county level when it comes forward for consideration.

She said: “I hope it will demonstrate how this sort of path is much more than a leisure route.

“It is also a key economic one for those who wish to cycle to work and the path will make it much safer for everyone, cyclists and drivers.

“Bike Safe has shown real drive and commitment to this project, so I wish them well.”

But county council cabinet member for environment David Nimmo Smith said that funding would have to come from central government and that the route length should be reduced.

He said: “To secure the funding from central government you have to show it is really on an economic route.

“Eynsham residents can already use the cycle path on the A40 if they wish to cycle into Oxford.

“It has been suggested to campaigners that they reduce the size of the route to go from Farmoor to Botley instead, as it is more likely to gain funding.”

  • For more information on the cycle path plans visit b4044path.org

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11:17am Mon 17 Mar 14

WitneyGreen says...

Eynsham already has a perfectly good cycle route into Oxford along the A40. The village also has a disproportionately high number of buses into Oxford (S1, S2, 11, 18) for a population centre of its size. I don't see how funding a further cycle link is the best use of money at the present time.
Eynsham already has a perfectly good cycle route into Oxford along the A40. The village also has a disproportionately high number of buses into Oxford (S1, S2, 11, 18) for a population centre of its size. I don't see how funding a further cycle link is the best use of money at the present time. WitneyGreen
  • Score: -15

12:08pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Floflo says...

WitneyGreen wrote:
Eynsham already has a perfectly good cycle route into Oxford along the A40. The village also has a disproportionately high number of buses into Oxford (S1, S2, 11, 18) for a population centre of its size. I don't see how funding a further cycle link is the best use of money at the present time.
There's also a perfectly good road which directly links Eynsham and West Oxford - but that is only if you drive or take the bus along it. Cycling and walking along this route is not for the faint hearted.

The 'alternative route' is twice as long and if far from being perfect. It takes you along a pavement and is unsuitable for commuting - it's better to use the road than tackle use the pavement which is poorly disguised as a cycle route.
[quote][p][bold]WitneyGreen[/bold] wrote: Eynsham already has a perfectly good cycle route into Oxford along the A40. The village also has a disproportionately high number of buses into Oxford (S1, S2, 11, 18) for a population centre of its size. I don't see how funding a further cycle link is the best use of money at the present time.[/p][/quote]There's also a perfectly good road which directly links Eynsham and West Oxford - but that is only if you drive or take the bus along it. Cycling and walking along this route is not for the faint hearted. The 'alternative route' is twice as long and if far from being perfect. It takes you along a pavement and is unsuitable for commuting - it's better to use the road than tackle use the pavement which is poorly disguised as a cycle route. Floflo
  • Score: 12

12:20pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BigAlBiker says...

I tend to cycle along the A40 into Oxford and it's pretty good, going over the Toll Bridge and along that route is a death waiting to happen, i can understand those who work that end of town wanting it and i can also understand those who don't want to spend the money because the A40 is already there, it is a difficult decision.
I tend to cycle along the A40 into Oxford and it's pretty good, going over the Toll Bridge and along that route is a death waiting to happen, i can understand those who work that end of town wanting it and i can also understand those who don't want to spend the money because the A40 is already there, it is a difficult decision. BigAlBiker
  • Score: 5

2:14pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Whitto says...

Campaignining for a £1.25m cyclepath from Eynsham to Oxford when a perfectly good one exists at a time when the council is making millions of pounds worth of cuts to services for those most vulnerable in society is both selfish and indefensible.......
Campaignining for a £1.25m cyclepath from Eynsham to Oxford when a perfectly good one exists at a time when the council is making millions of pounds worth of cuts to services for those most vulnerable in society is both selfish and indefensible....... Whitto
  • Score: -14

2:41pm Mon 17 Mar 14

King Joke says...

Firstly a cycle path virtually twice as long is not 'perfectly good' - who in their right mind would use it? It's a number of miles longer.

Secondly who's to say that people cycling to Oxford are not 'vulnerable'? THey might be working or going to care for somebody else, and the bike may be their only transport.
Firstly a cycle path virtually twice as long is not 'perfectly good' - who in their right mind would use it? It's a number of miles longer. Secondly who's to say that people cycling to Oxford are not 'vulnerable'? THey might be working or going to care for somebody else, and the bike may be their only transport. King Joke
  • Score: 7

3:21pm Mon 17 Mar 14

WitneyGreen says...

King Joke wrote:
Firstly a cycle path virtually twice as long is not 'perfectly good' - who in their right mind would use it? It's a number of miles longer.

Secondly who's to say that people cycling to Oxford are not 'vulnerable'? THey might be working or going to care for somebody else, and the bike may be their only transport.
It's 7.2 miles from central Eynsham along the B4044, over the Toll Bridge, through Farmoor and Dean Court to Botley Road into central Oxford. Via the A40 it is 8.6 miles. I don't see why that isn't good enough for now. If money was no object I'd say build the new path tomorrow, but money IS tight - I'm just not sure a second cycle path serving a village of less than 5000 people is an absolute priority for funding.
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: Firstly a cycle path virtually twice as long is not 'perfectly good' - who in their right mind would use it? It's a number of miles longer. Secondly who's to say that people cycling to Oxford are not 'vulnerable'? THey might be working or going to care for somebody else, and the bike may be their only transport.[/p][/quote]It's 7.2 miles from central Eynsham along the B4044, over the Toll Bridge, through Farmoor and Dean Court to Botley Road into central Oxford. Via the A40 it is 8.6 miles. I don't see why that isn't good enough for now. If money was no object I'd say build the new path tomorrow, but money IS tight - I'm just not sure a second cycle path serving a village of less than 5000 people is an absolute priority for funding. WitneyGreen
  • Score: -8

3:36pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Floflo says...

WitneyGreen wrote:
King Joke wrote:
Firstly a cycle path virtually twice as long is not 'perfectly good' - who in their right mind would use it? It's a number of miles longer.

Secondly who's to say that people cycling to Oxford are not 'vulnerable'? THey might be working or going to care for somebody else, and the bike may be their only transport.
It's 7.2 miles from central Eynsham along the B4044, over the Toll Bridge, through Farmoor and Dean Court to Botley Road into central Oxford. Via the A40 it is 8.6 miles. I don't see why that isn't good enough for now. If money was no object I'd say build the new path tomorrow, but money IS tight - I'm just not sure a second cycle path serving a village of less than 5000 people is an absolute priority for funding.
It's still a tiny fraction of the road budget for Oxfordshire. This budget has noting to do with any other budgets.

How its spent is a matter or priorities. You could perhaps resurface a small part of a busy road for the same amount of cash. There's plenty of roads that are 'perfectly good' but then get many millions spent on improvements.

Even if this investment is made spending on cycle infrastructure will remain a tiny proportion of the road budget.
[quote][p][bold]WitneyGreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: Firstly a cycle path virtually twice as long is not 'perfectly good' - who in their right mind would use it? It's a number of miles longer. Secondly who's to say that people cycling to Oxford are not 'vulnerable'? THey might be working or going to care for somebody else, and the bike may be their only transport.[/p][/quote]It's 7.2 miles from central Eynsham along the B4044, over the Toll Bridge, through Farmoor and Dean Court to Botley Road into central Oxford. Via the A40 it is 8.6 miles. I don't see why that isn't good enough for now. If money was no object I'd say build the new path tomorrow, but money IS tight - I'm just not sure a second cycle path serving a village of less than 5000 people is an absolute priority for funding.[/p][/quote]It's still a tiny fraction of the road budget for Oxfordshire. This budget has noting to do with any other budgets. How its spent is a matter or priorities. You could perhaps resurface a small part of a busy road for the same amount of cash. There's plenty of roads that are 'perfectly good' but then get many millions spent on improvements. Even if this investment is made spending on cycle infrastructure will remain a tiny proportion of the road budget. Floflo
  • Score: 5

3:47pm Mon 17 Mar 14

King Joke says...

1.4 miles is at least ten minutes saved on a morning commute. Very few people would opt for the Wolvercote route just to be off-road.

Of course you could acheive the same safety benefit and give the parallel bus service a gigantic boost by closing Swinford Bridge to private traffic 0700-1900 weekdays.
1.4 miles is at least ten minutes saved on a morning commute. Very few people would opt for the Wolvercote route just to be off-road. Of course you could acheive the same safety benefit and give the parallel bus service a gigantic boost by closing Swinford Bridge to private traffic 0700-1900 weekdays. King Joke
  • Score: 2

3:58pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Scrofulous Serf says...

It not only connects Eynsham to the city along a shorter route it connects the city to West Oxfordshire and beyond for leisure use. £1.25m for a permanent infrastructure asset requiring minimum maintenance sounds like a bargain to me.
It not only connects Eynsham to the city along a shorter route it connects the city to West Oxfordshire and beyond for leisure use. £1.25m for a permanent infrastructure asset requiring minimum maintenance sounds like a bargain to me. Scrofulous Serf
  • Score: 9

5:33pm Mon 17 Mar 14

baldynoseaside says...

I entirely agree with mr serf here... A cycle route from eynsham to the west side of oxford would reduce congestion (by reducing traffic along that road and removing the regular traffic jams which form behind foolhardy cyclists using the road) and open up the west side of oxford and wytham woods and farmoor reservoir to cyclists... a win/win situation.
I entirely agree with mr serf here... A cycle route from eynsham to the west side of oxford would reduce congestion (by reducing traffic along that road and removing the regular traffic jams which form behind foolhardy cyclists using the road) and open up the west side of oxford and wytham woods and farmoor reservoir to cyclists... a win/win situation. baldynoseaside
  • Score: 8

5:48pm Mon 17 Mar 14

WitneyGreen says...

King Joke wrote:
1.4 miles is at least ten minutes saved on a morning commute. Very few people would opt for the Wolvercote route just to be off-road.

Of course you could acheive the same safety benefit and give the parallel bus service a gigantic boost by closing Swinford Bridge to private traffic 0700-1900 weekdays.
As a bus user I like THAT idea rather more!
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: 1.4 miles is at least ten minutes saved on a morning commute. Very few people would opt for the Wolvercote route just to be off-road. Of course you could acheive the same safety benefit and give the parallel bus service a gigantic boost by closing Swinford Bridge to private traffic 0700-1900 weekdays.[/p][/quote]As a bus user I like THAT idea rather more! WitneyGreen
  • Score: -1

5:55pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Richard of Wantage says...

In a recent report Oxfordshire County Highways came in the bottom 3 of Highway authorities in the UK. What ever Oxfordshire Highways does it's not great, fixing holes, reducing congestion, improving cycling infrastructure etc. From Oxfordshire's highways budget only 0.2% is spend on cycling infrastructure, at that rate I think the B4044 will be lucky to see a cycle path this century.

What we should be doing is supporting groups like Bike Safe, that are doing the jobs which the County and District councils should be doing.
In a recent report Oxfordshire County Highways came in the bottom 3 of Highway authorities in the UK. What ever Oxfordshire Highways does it's not great, fixing holes, reducing congestion, improving cycling infrastructure etc. From Oxfordshire's highways budget only 0.2% is spend on cycling infrastructure, at that rate I think the B4044 will be lucky to see a cycle path this century. What we should be doing is supporting groups like Bike Safe, that are doing the jobs which the County and District councils should be doing. Richard of Wantage
  • Score: 14

9:20pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Floflo says...

King Joke wrote:
1.4 miles is at least ten minutes saved on a morning commute. Very few people would opt for the Wolvercote route just to be off-road.

Of course you could acheive the same safety benefit and give the parallel bus service a gigantic boost by closing Swinford Bridge to private traffic 0700-1900 weekdays.
I don't expect many would complain the road was closed to private motor vehicles as there's 'perfectly good' alternative routes.
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: 1.4 miles is at least ten minutes saved on a morning commute. Very few people would opt for the Wolvercote route just to be off-road. Of course you could acheive the same safety benefit and give the parallel bus service a gigantic boost by closing Swinford Bridge to private traffic 0700-1900 weekdays.[/p][/quote]I don't expect many would complain the road was closed to private motor vehicles as there's 'perfectly good' alternative routes. Floflo
  • Score: 5

10:00am Tue 18 Mar 14

WitneyGreen says...

Floflo wrote:
King Joke wrote:
1.4 miles is at least ten minutes saved on a morning commute. Very few people would opt for the Wolvercote route just to be off-road.

Of course you could acheive the same safety benefit and give the parallel bus service a gigantic boost by closing Swinford Bridge to private traffic 0700-1900 weekdays.
I don't expect many would complain the road was closed to private motor vehicles as there's 'perfectly good' alternative routes.
There is a perfectly good alternative. The A40 is a better road, more direct, and most importantly you don't get held up behind bloody cyclists...

;)
[quote][p][bold]Floflo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: 1.4 miles is at least ten minutes saved on a morning commute. Very few people would opt for the Wolvercote route just to be off-road. Of course you could acheive the same safety benefit and give the parallel bus service a gigantic boost by closing Swinford Bridge to private traffic 0700-1900 weekdays.[/p][/quote]I don't expect many would complain the road was closed to private motor vehicles as there's 'perfectly good' alternative routes.[/p][/quote]There is a perfectly good alternative. The A40 is a better road, more direct, and most importantly you don't get held up behind bloody cyclists... ;) WitneyGreen
  • Score: -7

10:02pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Jimmer says...

A new cycle path?? If cyclist used the cycle paths they already had it would be a fine thing (e.g. A40) I find being stuck behind cyclists (e.g. from Marcham to Abingdon/Didcot to Milton Hill) when there is a perfectly good cycle path there.
Save the money, and fix pot holes.
A new cycle path?? If cyclist used the cycle paths they already had it would be a fine thing (e.g. A40) I find being stuck behind cyclists (e.g. from Marcham to Abingdon/Didcot to Milton Hill) when there is a perfectly good cycle path there. Save the money, and fix pot holes. Jimmer
  • Score: -2

2:35pm Fri 21 Mar 14

locodogz says...

Richard of Wantage wrote:
In a recent report Oxfordshire County Highways came in the bottom 3 of Highway authorities in the UK. What ever Oxfordshire Highways does it's not great, fixing holes, reducing congestion, improving cycling infrastructure etc. From Oxfordshire's highways budget only 0.2% is spend on cycling infrastructure, at that rate I think the B4044 will be lucky to see a cycle path this century.

What we should be doing is supporting groups like Bike Safe, that are doing the jobs which the County and District councils should be doing.
Hi Richard

I'd be really interested to see the source of your "From Oxfordshire's highways budget only 0.2% is spend on cycling infrastructure, at that rate I think the B4044 will be lucky to see a cycle path this century." quote.

Could you post a link as frankly I'm floundering to find it on the Oxfordshire CC website
[quote][p][bold]Richard of Wantage[/bold] wrote: In a recent report Oxfordshire County Highways came in the bottom 3 of Highway authorities in the UK. What ever Oxfordshire Highways does it's not great, fixing holes, reducing congestion, improving cycling infrastructure etc. From Oxfordshire's highways budget only 0.2% is spend on cycling infrastructure, at that rate I think the B4044 will be lucky to see a cycle path this century. What we should be doing is supporting groups like Bike Safe, that are doing the jobs which the County and District councils should be doing.[/p][/quote]Hi Richard I'd be really interested to see the source of your "From Oxfordshire's highways budget only 0.2% is spend on cycling infrastructure, at that rate I think the B4044 will be lucky to see a cycle path this century." quote. Could you post a link as frankly I'm floundering to find it on the Oxfordshire CC website locodogz
  • Score: 1

3:03pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Richard of Wantage says...

Just for you locodogz, it's not a figure that OCC are proud of!

http://www.ctc.org.u
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Just for you locodogz, it's not a figure that OCC are proud of! http://www.ctc.org.u k/oxfordshire-spends -just-02-of-transpor t-budget-on-cycling Richard of Wantage
  • Score: 5

3:46pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Whitto says...

Floflo wrote:
WitneyGreen wrote:
King Joke wrote:
Firstly a cycle path virtually twice as long is not 'perfectly good' - who in their right mind would use it? It's a number of miles longer.

Secondly who's to say that people cycling to Oxford are not 'vulnerable'? THey might be working or going to care for somebody else, and the bike may be their only transport.
It's 7.2 miles from central Eynsham along the B4044, over the Toll Bridge, through Farmoor and Dean Court to Botley Road into central Oxford. Via the A40 it is 8.6 miles. I don't see why that isn't good enough for now. If money was no object I'd say build the new path tomorrow, but money IS tight - I'm just not sure a second cycle path serving a village of less than 5000 people is an absolute priority for funding.
It's still a tiny fraction of the road budget for Oxfordshire. This budget has noting to do with any other budgets.

How its spent is a matter or priorities. You could perhaps resurface a small part of a busy road for the same amount of cash. There's plenty of roads that are 'perfectly good' but then get many millions spent on improvements.

Even if this investment is made spending on cycle infrastructure will remain a tiny proportion of the road budget.
They aren't "vulnerable" as cyclists when they are on the already existing cyclepath alongside the A40 unless the extra 1.4 miles makes them so.

Why not put the money back into other transport schemes like the school buses or rural bus services being reducedthat will cut off elderly people from essential services...

Call me Dave's constiuents have really bought into the "we're all in it together" mentality just like Dave has*

*except when there is something they want.
[quote][p][bold]Floflo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WitneyGreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: Firstly a cycle path virtually twice as long is not 'perfectly good' - who in their right mind would use it? It's a number of miles longer. Secondly who's to say that people cycling to Oxford are not 'vulnerable'? THey might be working or going to care for somebody else, and the bike may be their only transport.[/p][/quote]It's 7.2 miles from central Eynsham along the B4044, over the Toll Bridge, through Farmoor and Dean Court to Botley Road into central Oxford. Via the A40 it is 8.6 miles. I don't see why that isn't good enough for now. If money was no object I'd say build the new path tomorrow, but money IS tight - I'm just not sure a second cycle path serving a village of less than 5000 people is an absolute priority for funding.[/p][/quote]It's still a tiny fraction of the road budget for Oxfordshire. This budget has noting to do with any other budgets. How its spent is a matter or priorities. You could perhaps resurface a small part of a busy road for the same amount of cash. There's plenty of roads that are 'perfectly good' but then get many millions spent on improvements. Even if this investment is made spending on cycle infrastructure will remain a tiny proportion of the road budget.[/p][/quote]They aren't "vulnerable" as cyclists when they are on the already existing cyclepath alongside the A40 unless the extra 1.4 miles makes them so. Why not put the money back into other transport schemes like the school buses or rural bus services being reducedthat will cut off elderly people from essential services... Call me Dave's constiuents have really bought into the "we're all in it together" mentality just like Dave has* *except when there is something they want. Whitto
  • Score: -2

3:51pm Fri 21 Mar 14

King Joke says...

Is that the best we can offer those who are doing their bit to reduce congestion by cycling to work? A route 1.4 miles longer than their car-bound colleagues?

£1.25m to help them is the least we can do.
Is that the best we can offer those who are doing their bit to reduce congestion by cycling to work? A route 1.4 miles longer than their car-bound colleagues? £1.25m to help them is the least we can do. King Joke
  • Score: 2

1:55am Tue 25 Mar 14

TouringPianoTuner says...

The councillor has obviously never commuted over four miles by bike on a regular basis, rain or shine. He obviously doesn't have kids who do the same to get to school. I'll wager he drops them off in a Chelsea tractor like the millions of others that cause a morning traffic jam, completely unnecessary.

This is demonstrated by the fact that he doesn't appreciate the difference between a good cycle route and a poor one that goes alongside a deafeningly noisy dual carriageway on a poor, narrow surface. Also by the fact that he is unaware how much more dedication it takes to cycle an extra three miles in the freezing cold when you're already tired and frustrated that your only choice of route is so convoluted.

It's not the same as sitting in his cosy Chelsea tractor in a traffic jam and listening to the news about the poor folk the other side of the world who are dying of the latest famine caused by global warming caused by the fumes coming out of his exhaust pipe.

I don't live anywhere near Eynsham but I am a cyclist and I do think that this campaign should have priority, anything else is just short sighted.
The councillor has obviously never commuted over four miles by bike on a regular basis, rain or shine. He obviously doesn't have kids who do the same to get to school. I'll wager he drops them off in a Chelsea tractor like the millions of others that cause a morning traffic jam, completely unnecessary. This is demonstrated by the fact that he doesn't appreciate the difference between a good cycle route and a poor one that goes alongside a deafeningly noisy dual carriageway on a poor, narrow surface. Also by the fact that he is unaware how much more dedication it takes to cycle an extra three miles in the freezing cold when you're already tired and frustrated that your only choice of route is so convoluted. It's not the same as sitting in his cosy Chelsea tractor in a traffic jam and listening to the news about the poor folk the other side of the world who are dying of the latest famine caused by global warming caused by the fumes coming out of his exhaust pipe. I don't live anywhere near Eynsham but I am a cyclist and I do think that this campaign should have priority, anything else is just short sighted. TouringPianoTuner
  • Score: 0

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