MP Nicola Blackwood looks at community's worries over withdrawal of 4C bus service

thisisoxfordshire: Resident Nikki Cavanagh hands a petition to Nicola Blackwood about the 4C Resident Nikki Cavanagh hands a petition to Nicola Blackwood about the 4C

AN MP has promised bus users she will push for their service to stay.

Dean Court’s 4C hourly bus through the city is due to stop running tomorrow in a plan announced by Oxford Bus Company last month.

The Oxford West and Abingdon MP met concerned passengers yesterday at the Pinnocks Way bus stop.

She said: “I am concerned there has not been sufficient consultation about stopping the 4C bus. It is the most vulnerable residents that will suffer.

“I am going to be asking Oxford Bus Company to look for alternatives to ensure residents aren’t disadvantaged.”

The service, which connects Wood Farm and the city with Dean Court, will be replaced by an improved 4B service which will run to Cumnor every 20 minutes.

But some bus users say they will not be able to get up the steep Dean Court Road to their new bus stop.

Songers Close resident Helen Carter, 70, said: “We are going to be so isolated. They are taking away our independence.”

Oxford Bus Company spokesman Phil Ashworth said it was the responsibility of Oxfordshire County Council to assess the social need to a service.

He explained: "Nicola Blackwood has been in touch with Oxford Bus Company and we have detailed the reasons behind the changes to the City4 service.

"We explained that the decision to change the route was a commercial one and that where a bus operator cannot provide a service commercially there is a statutory responsibility for the County Council to assess social need. It is then their decision whether or not a replacement service is provided."

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12:33pm Mon 27 Jan 14

icba1957 says...

"some bus users say they will not be able to get up the steep Dean Court Road to their new bus stop".

Those who are unable to walk UP the hill could always walk DOWN the hill to Eynsham Road and catch the S1 which runs every 15 minutes (but then they won't have anything to whine about, will they?)
"some bus users say they will not be able to get up the steep Dean Court Road to their new bus stop". Those who are unable to walk UP the hill could always walk DOWN the hill to Eynsham Road and catch the S1 which runs every 15 minutes (but then they won't have anything to whine about, will they?) icba1957
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12:35pm Mon 27 Jan 14

King Joke says...

I suppose Nicola's constituents in Cumnor are delighted she's lobbying against their village getting a regular-interval service on the No 4 for the first time?
I suppose Nicola's constituents in Cumnor are delighted she's lobbying against their village getting a regular-interval service on the No 4 for the first time? King Joke
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12:59pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Andrew:Oxford says...

King Joke wrote:
I suppose Nicola's constituents in Cumnor are delighted she's lobbying against their village getting a regular-interval service on the No 4 for the first time?
"Nicola Blackwood joins campain against a regular Bus service for Cumnor"

Probably wouldn't meet the aspirations of the press office.

What's happened in recent weeks to bring Nicola to Oxford? Can go for ages without any mention then she suddenly pops up in town.
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: I suppose Nicola's constituents in Cumnor are delighted she's lobbying against their village getting a regular-interval service on the No 4 for the first time?[/p][/quote]"Nicola Blackwood joins campain against a regular Bus service for Cumnor" Probably wouldn't meet the aspirations of the press office. What's happened in recent weeks to bring Nicola to Oxford? Can go for ages without any mention then she suddenly pops up in town. Andrew:Oxford
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1:13pm Mon 27 Jan 14

mytaxes says...

Andrew, one thing I know is that Nicola answers correspondence from constituents unlike the previous MP Evan Harris.
Andrew, one thing I know is that Nicola answers correspondence from constituents unlike the previous MP Evan Harris. mytaxes
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8:35pm Mon 27 Jan 14

The Foxy Lady says...

Icba and king joke
Firstly Nicola Black wood is not campaigning against the Cumnor route. She very rightly listened to an other part of Botley's residents. And secondly to say People can hop on the S1 means you have totally failed to learn the whlle story. Point being the S1 does not go directly to the hospital and is a vital link. The Cumnor alleyways are a super steep gradient.
Icba and king joke Firstly Nicola Black wood is not campaigning against the Cumnor route. She very rightly listened to an other part of Botley's residents. And secondly to say People can hop on the S1 means you have totally failed to learn the whlle story. Point being the S1 does not go directly to the hospital and is a vital link. The Cumnor alleyways are a super steep gradient. The Foxy Lady
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10:43pm Mon 27 Jan 14

aliascath says...

No one is against a good bus service for Cumnor. However, they are for a good service for Dean court continuing. The 4c was profitable overall, but apparently not on the first four stops. Yet the morning buses were always wellused by commuters, parents with young kids and then by older residents going to the local shops.
The decision is leaving people isolated.
No one is against a good bus service for Cumnor. However, they are for a good service for Dean court continuing. The 4c was profitable overall, but apparently not on the first four stops. Yet the morning buses were always wellused by commuters, parents with young kids and then by older residents going to the local shops. The decision is leaving people isolated. aliascath
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8:36am Tue 28 Jan 14

yabbadabbadoo256 says...

How about campainging on more important things like getting the Environment agency to sort out the floods properly in her Constituancy?
How about campainging on more important things like getting the Environment agency to sort out the floods properly in her Constituancy? yabbadabbadoo256
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8:53am Tue 28 Jan 14

natox78 says...

She is doing that.
She is doing that. natox78
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9:18am Tue 28 Jan 14

King Joke says...

The 'hospital link' issue is a bit of a red herring, as there are ample opportunities to change onto services to any of the hospitals (and indeed anywhere east of the city centre) at th High St, from and adjacent stop. Not every area can have a direct link to the various hospitals (and the 4C never did until it came out of the Iffley Rd a couple of years ago) but a good, short interchange allows access.

The main issue seems to be that the peak services were well used but off-peak were not, for section along the Eynsham Rd and into Dean Court. I'd see the solution as some kind of peak-time service, like that to the Airport which is done by diverting some of the Kidlington services. THe opportunity to better serve Cumnor should not be thrown away though. Off-peak you could divert a subsidised village bus a few times a day, there are a few which run through West Oxford on the way into the city.
The 'hospital link' issue is a bit of a red herring, as there are ample opportunities to change onto services to any of the hospitals (and indeed anywhere east of the city centre) at th High St, from and adjacent stop. Not every area can have a direct link to the various hospitals (and the 4C never did until it came out of the Iffley Rd a couple of years ago) but a good, short interchange allows access. The main issue seems to be that the peak services were well used but off-peak were not, for section along the Eynsham Rd and into Dean Court. I'd see the solution as some kind of peak-time service, like that to the Airport which is done by diverting some of the Kidlington services. THe opportunity to better serve Cumnor should not be thrown away though. Off-peak you could divert a subsidised village bus a few times a day, there are a few which run through West Oxford on the way into the city. King Joke
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2:39pm Tue 28 Jan 14

icba1957 says...

The Foxy Lady wrote:
Icba and king joke
Firstly Nicola Black wood is not campaigning against the Cumnor route. She very rightly listened to an other part of Botley's residents. And secondly to say People can hop on the S1 means you have totally failed to learn the whlle story. Point being the S1 does not go directly to the hospital and is a vital link. The Cumnor alleyways are a super steep gradient.
"totally failed"? There is no mention of the hospital anywhere in the story, and which hospital do you mean any way? As another correspondent has said, there are ample ways of getting to any of Oxford's hospitals by changing bus in the city centre, so all this over-reaction is "totally pointless".

The S1 runs four times as frequently as the 4C used to, so I can't really see that anyone is losing their independance or being left isolated.

Older people going to the shops don't pay either, so that's why it wasn't commercially viable.
[quote][p][bold]The Foxy Lady[/bold] wrote: Icba and king joke Firstly Nicola Black wood is not campaigning against the Cumnor route. She very rightly listened to an other part of Botley's residents. And secondly to say People can hop on the S1 means you have totally failed to learn the whlle story. Point being the S1 does not go directly to the hospital and is a vital link. The Cumnor alleyways are a super steep gradient.[/p][/quote]"totally failed"? There is no mention of the hospital anywhere in the story, and which hospital do you mean any way? As another correspondent has said, there are ample ways of getting to any of Oxford's hospitals by changing bus in the city centre, so all this over-reaction is "totally pointless". The S1 runs four times as frequently as the 4C used to, so I can't really see that anyone is losing their independance or being left isolated. Older people going to the shops don't pay either, so that's why it wasn't commercially viable. icba1957
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