Residents still split over parking scheme

thisisoxfordshire: Part of the Magdalen Road (North) CPZ Part of the Magdalen Road (North) CPZ

NEIGHBOURS living next to a new residents’ parking zone have called for similar restrictions in their streets.

People living in the Magdalen Road area were so split about proposals for the controlled parking zone (CPZ) that the area was divided into two.

Restrictions were brought in last autumn for those living to the north of the area while parking is unregulated in the south.

Three months on, residents say parking has improved where the restrictions are in place – but worsened where they are not.

Amar Latif, 29, of Warwick Street, which is outside the CPZ, said: “The people in the zone have a moral obligation to ensure that they park within that zone and don’t inflict parking pressure on neighbouring areas.”

Mum-of-two Al Chisholm, 40, of Percy Street, which is outside the CPZ, said: “There are cars parked all over the place. I was very strongly in favour for a long time of a CPZ and I still think it would be better than doing nothing.”

Rowan Tilly, 55, of Percy Street, said many cars parked on the pavement. She said: “There are definitely more cars here.”

But some residents remain against an introduction of parking restrictions south of Magdalen Road.

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Dominic Woodfield, of Silver Road, said that he would not want permit parking but agreed the situation had worsened.

He said: “There has been a noticeable increase in parked cars in mine and adjoining streets, closely allied to student term times, not out of town commuters.”

The Magdalen Road (North) CPZ was brought in last November after five years of consultations and delays because of concern from residents.

Officials have revealed 393 parking tickets have since been issued.

Enforcement officers have handed out the £60 tickets – which reduce to £30 if paid within 14 days – since November 27 after a grace period where only warnings were issued.

During the three days in November, 57 tickets were issued, in December there were 183 and this reduced in January by 30 to 153.

Hurst Street resident Anthony Cheke, 67, said: “From our point of view here in Magdalen North Zone, parking is now possible and even passing in the street.”

The cost of the East Oxford CPZs is supported by £257,000 from Oxford University as part of its plans to expand its Old Road campus.

County council deputy leader Rodney Rose said: “I would like to see a complete year before I draw real observations on it. I am getting no bad feedback.”

He said the introduction of a scheme in Magdalen Road (South) was still a possibility if residents asked for it.

The Magdalen Road (North) CPZ covers roads between but not including Bullingdon Road and Magdalen Road. Permits cost £50 a year from Oxfordshire County Council. Residents get 25 free 24-hour visitor permits and are charged £16 for the next 25.

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11:25am Mon 11 Feb 13

Sid Hunt says...

"Three months on, residents say parking has improved where the restrictions are in place – but worsened where they are not."

There's a surprise!
"Three months on, residents say parking has improved where the restrictions are in place – but worsened where they are not." There's a surprise! Sid Hunt

12:19pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Oxonian says...

When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets.
When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets. Oxonian

12:37pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Dastroll says...

In the picure above why are two cars parked facing the wrong way on a one way road?
In the picure above why are two cars parked facing the wrong way on a one way road? Dastroll

1:39pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Grunden Skip says...

Dastroll wrote:
In the picure above why are two cars parked facing the wrong way on a one way road?
Probably had a few too many in The Eagle, was going to drive home and thought better of it.
[quote][p][bold]Dastroll[/bold] wrote: In the picure above why are two cars parked facing the wrong way on a one way road?[/p][/quote]Probably had a few too many in The Eagle, was going to drive home and thought better of it. Grunden Skip

2:37pm Mon 11 Feb 13

King Joke says...

Oxonian wrote:
When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets.
Inevitably you will have to introduce CPZs further and further out. It doesn't mean CPZs are a bad idea though.
[quote][p][bold]Oxonian[/bold] wrote: When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets.[/p][/quote]Inevitably you will have to introduce CPZs further and further out. It doesn't mean CPZs are a bad idea though. King Joke

6:53pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Oxonian says...

King Joke wrote:
Oxonian wrote:
When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets.
Inevitably you will have to introduce CPZs further and further out. It doesn't mean CPZs are a bad idea though.
King Joke's comment is not exactly notable for its logic. If CPZs go further and further out, they will eventually occupy the whole of Oxford, even in areas which never originally needed them. Residents will have to pay £50 a year unnecessarily.
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxonian[/bold] wrote: When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets.[/p][/quote]Inevitably you will have to introduce CPZs further and further out. It doesn't mean CPZs are a bad idea though.[/p][/quote]King Joke's comment is not exactly notable for its logic. If CPZs go further and further out, they will eventually occupy the whole of Oxford, even in areas which never originally needed them. Residents will have to pay £50 a year unnecessarily. Oxonian

8:38am Tue 12 Feb 13

King Joke says...

Oxonian wrote:
King Joke wrote:
Oxonian wrote: When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets.
Inevitably you will have to introduce CPZs further and further out. It doesn't mean CPZs are a bad idea though.
King Joke's comment is not exactly notable for its logic. If CPZs go further and further out, they will eventually occupy the whole of Oxford, even in areas which never originally needed them. Residents will have to pay £50 a year unnecessarily.
If parking becomes a problem, then they clearly ARE needed. Doing away with them simply condemns areas within walking distance of the city centre to massive levels of commuter parking. As you don't defecate on your own doorstep, it's likely to be more obstructive and inconsiderate than residents' parking.

If 15p/day is too high a price to pay for civilised, liveable streets with pavements not full of parked cars I give up!
[quote][p][bold]Oxonian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxonian[/bold] wrote: When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets.[/p][/quote]Inevitably you will have to introduce CPZs further and further out. It doesn't mean CPZs are a bad idea though.[/p][/quote]King Joke's comment is not exactly notable for its logic. If CPZs go further and further out, they will eventually occupy the whole of Oxford, even in areas which never originally needed them. Residents will have to pay £50 a year unnecessarily.[/p][/quote]If parking becomes a problem, then they clearly ARE needed. Doing away with them simply condemns areas within walking distance of the city centre to massive levels of commuter parking. As you don't defecate on your own doorstep, it's likely to be more obstructive and inconsiderate than residents' parking. If 15p/day is too high a price to pay for civilised, liveable streets with pavements not full of parked cars I give up! King Joke

12:00pm Tue 12 Feb 13

zimmer, Wolvecote. says...

Oxonian wrote:
King Joke wrote:
Oxonian wrote:
When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets.
Inevitably you will have to introduce CPZs further and further out. It doesn't mean CPZs are a bad idea though.
King Joke's comment is not exactly notable for its logic. If CPZs go further and further out, they will eventually occupy the whole of Oxford, even in areas which never originally needed them. Residents will have to pay £50 a year unnecessarily.
Correct Oxonian, you only have to look at summertown, where the CPZ will be expanded outside the ring-road, what next, Kidlington and Yarnton? I also believe that the CPZ near Magdalen Rd needs to be extended, will that end up going as far as Blackbird Leys, and Littlemore? But if they are to be extended there is no need (apart from profiteering from the council) to charge for them, as they self fund through the fines amassed. But overrall aren't these the kind of things that we pay our council tax for, and not the pension pot for those that want to invent new things to charge us for on top of it. A permanent solution to the ugly lights on our bridge into the Village would be a good start.
[quote][p][bold]Oxonian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxonian[/bold] wrote: When a CPZ is introduced in one area, it is not surprising that more people park in neighbouring areas. Introducing a CPZ only pushes a problem into adjacent streets.[/p][/quote]Inevitably you will have to introduce CPZs further and further out. It doesn't mean CPZs are a bad idea though.[/p][/quote]King Joke's comment is not exactly notable for its logic. If CPZs go further and further out, they will eventually occupy the whole of Oxford, even in areas which never originally needed them. Residents will have to pay £50 a year unnecessarily.[/p][/quote]Correct Oxonian, you only have to look at summertown, where the CPZ will be expanded outside the ring-road, what next, Kidlington and Yarnton? I also believe that the CPZ near Magdalen Rd needs to be extended, will that end up going as far as Blackbird Leys, and Littlemore? But if they are to be extended there is no need (apart from profiteering from the council) to charge for them, as they self fund through the fines amassed. But overrall aren't these the kind of things that we pay our council tax for, and not the pension pot for those that want to invent new things to charge us for on top of it. A permanent solution to the ugly lights on our bridge into the Village would be a good start. zimmer, Wolvecote.

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