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Oxford Greyhound Stadium to shut
6:03pm Friday 23rd November 2012 in News
OXFORD Greyhound Stadium is to shut, it has been confirmed tonight.
The stadium in Blackbird Leys has had a question mark over its future for months, with building housing on the site being put forward as a potential plan.
The Oxford Mail has just learnt the last meeting will be held on December 29.
Oxord East MP Andrew Smith has tonight labelled the decision "an absolute tragedy".
It has been a top entertainment venue for greyhound racing and speedway since 1939
Staff and trainers were given the shock news by GRA general manager Clive Feltham at 2.30pm today, citing the losing of the Friday BAGS meeting as the main reason for the closure.
Racing manager Gary Baiden, who has been at the track since 1986 said:" We are all shell shocked. We were under the impression that even if the building plans were approved we would have at least another 18 months here at least.
"We expected a few cut backs and some staff to lose their jobs, but this was total shock. Maybe there are other plans afoot. With the stadium having vacant possession it might be easier for the city council to approve the planning application once it has been submitted.
"It's very sad, the end of an era. I feel sorry for the owners, trainers and staff. The trainers could be offered posts at the other GRA tracks, but what a headache for the trainers and nearly 400 greyhounds to contend with.
"Everybody affected here will have to find new jobs, it's a sad, sad day."
Comments(37)
mdh1664
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6:44pm Fri 23 Nov 12
run it down, come out with loss making statements.
then the planning applications for housing go in !
IT STINKS !
BrianAdams
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7:26pm Fri 23 Nov 12
William Stroudley, Sandford on Thames
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7:31pm Fri 23 Nov 12
We have too many people in Oxford as it is, and with this possible development and the 900 - 1200 extra houses at Barton in the offing its only going to get worse.
pollypenny
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7:34pm Fri 23 Nov 12
BrianAdams
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7:40pm Fri 23 Nov 12
William Stroudley, Sandford on Thames wrote:Agreed, more housing with no work opportunities is not a good recipe. MP Andrew Smith done a local survey and the vast majority don’t want the housing development, the wider Oxford community don’t want to see the back of the dog track for housing, but yet due to some very poor business decisions this looks like it’s definitely now going to happen. You can’t help wonder how many under the table payments have been made to the council that is meant to represent the people..... if they actually represented us they would listen to us.
More housing, doesn't anyone realise that more forms of entertainment for everyone would be preferred.
We have too many people in Oxford as it is, and with this possible development and the 900 - 1200 extra houses at Barton in the offing its only going to get worse.
BigAlBiker
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9:42pm Fri 23 Nov 12
pollypenny wrote:Your on cloud cuckoo land, racing dogs of all varieties has been around since god knows when and will always be, it's been a great night out for families, stag and hen nights and committed punters and hopefully this will stay so but I suspect money will talk again.
I am delighted this has closed. The very nature of Greyhound racing promotes Greyhound abuse. Thousands are needlessly euthanized if they don't make it to the track, or due to minor injuries. Then there are the 'so called' lucky ones who make the track, have a risk filled life of racing who then go on to face their next hurdle once this career is over. As young as age 3 (or younger if injured or not fast enough) they will be abandoned to already overfilled rescue centres, whose job is to find them a home. There are many others who don't even get this option and are killed in barbaric ways by their trainers. The whole vicious cycle can only be stopped by recognising that Greyhound racing has no place in a civilised society where we are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers. It serves only to satisfy the greed of the trainers, bookmakers, race track owners and the misguided public who come to watch and bet on them, often oblivious to the abuse and neglect that goes on behind the scenes.
You can't just keep on building houses, seems daft to me but then again i am not in that business. Losing the Cheetahs was the start of the rot.
Keep,dog racing, keep the karting, and try to get speedway back.
zam
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10:47pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Mark L
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11:33pm Fri 23 Nov 12
I didn't get this questionnaire, i would of liked to of been able to send my opinion, although i doubt it would of made a difference. I thought the public meetings had support to keep the stadium!
Greyhound10
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11:40pm Fri 23 Nov 12
BigAlBiker wrote:Sorry Polly but you are so so very wrong. I live in the north east on England and i am totally gutted by this news. Please dont paint this picture you dont no the facts. True greyhound people are great people who love and cherish there dogs. They are so well looked after and the greyhounds actually love to run. If they did not want to run they would simply refuse. I know this because i have a 10 year greyhound that i breed myself to race and she did not want to. She has not been killed or shipped off to a re-homing centre. She has a very happy life and is treat better me. Also the retired greyhound trust (charity) run an amazing re-homing scheme. They have helped to find loving homes for over 3000 retired greyhound of all ages this year alone.
pollypenny wrote:Your on cloud cuckoo land, racing dogs of all varieties has been around since god knows when and will always be, it's been a great night out for families, stag and hen nights and committed punters and hopefully this will stay so but I suspect money will talk again.
I am delighted this has closed. The very nature of Greyhound racing promotes Greyhound abuse. Thousands are needlessly euthanized if they don't make it to the track, or due to minor injuries. Then there are the 'so called' lucky ones who make the track, have a risk filled life of racing who then go on to face their next hurdle once this career is over. As young as age 3 (or younger if injured or not fast enough) they will be abandoned to already overfilled rescue centres, whose job is to find them a home. There are many others who don't even get this option and are killed in barbaric ways by their trainers. The whole vicious cycle can only be stopped by recognising that Greyhound racing has no place in a civilised society where we are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers. It serves only to satisfy the greed of the trainers, bookmakers, race track owners and the misguided public who come to watch and bet on them, often oblivious to the abuse and neglect that goes on behind the scenes.
You can't just keep on building houses, seems daft to me but then again i am not in that business. Losing the Cheetahs was the start of the rot.
Keep,dog racing, keep the karting, and try to get speedway back.
There is the minority of bad people in all walks of life including greyhound racing but i am outraged with your statement. This is our sport and we love greyhound racing but most of all we love our Greyhounds.
train passenger
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11:42pm Fri 23 Nov 12
norton manor
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6:15am Sat 24 Nov 12
to ny w
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9:30am Sat 24 Nov 12
Sad for loss of the track for everybody concerned, but not surprised as losing 500k p a Friday BAGS contract broke the straw.
If BAGS were making money with off course bookies doing well at Oxford then Oxford would have survived. The fact of the matter is economics prevails. If Oxford was good business for the national bookies, then BAGS would have bent over backwards to keep it going.
3 years ago I was refused a 40 quid bet on my dog in a Tote betting shop in Oxford and was offered 10 quid maximum!! Why? Well they told me that they have been stung many many times by off course gambles they had to limit bets and I am sure they have said enough is enough, The numbers do not work and the golden goose has died.
pollypenny
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9:40am Sat 24 Nov 12
BigAlBiker wrote:If you truly believe that thousands are not needlessly killed and injured due to a sport that only serves to entertain you and make money for others then 'cloud cuckoo land' is where you clearly are.
pollypenny wrote:Your on cloud cuckoo land, racing dogs of all varieties has been around since god knows when and will always be, it's been a great night out for families, stag and hen nights and committed punters and hopefully this will stay so but I suspect money will talk again.
I am delighted this has closed. The very nature of Greyhound racing promotes Greyhound abuse. Thousands are needlessly euthanized if they don't make it to the track, or due to minor injuries. Then there are the 'so called' lucky ones who make the track, have a risk filled life of racing who then go on to face their next hurdle once this career is over. As young as age 3 (or younger if injured or not fast enough) they will be abandoned to already overfilled rescue centres, whose job is to find them a home. There are many others who don't even get this option and are killed in barbaric ways by their trainers. The whole vicious cycle can only be stopped by recognising that Greyhound racing has no place in a civilised society where we are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers. It serves only to satisfy the greed of the trainers, bookmakers, race track owners and the misguided public who come to watch and bet on them, often oblivious to the abuse and neglect that goes on behind the scenes.
You can't just keep on building houses, seems daft to me but then again i am not in that business. Losing the Cheetahs was the start of the rot.
Keep,dog racing, keep the karting, and try to get speedway back.
Many things have been around 'since god knows when', that doesn't mean it still should be, or ever should have been. I have two rescue Greyhounds that are the direct result of failing to make the track and being dumped,and have many friends who also have rescue Greyhounds that only needed rehoming due to abandonment or retirement from this appalling industry.
If you'd care to do your research you would find out the true horrors of what really goes on behind the scenes and also the unregulated over breeding and euthanasia.
If you cared one iota about the dogs you would not support the industry, so you support speaks volumes.
Greytexploitations
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10:12am Sat 24 Nov 12
Greyhound10 wrote:Greyhound10....I too live in the North East but it matters not where we live because commercial dog racing depends on inherent cruel parctices for its financial viability worldwide.......
BigAlBiker wrote:Sorry Polly but you are so so very wrong. I live in the north east on England and i am totally gutted by this news. Please dont paint this picture you dont no the facts. True greyhound people are great people who love and cherish there dogs. They are so well looked after and the greyhounds actually love to run. If they did not want to run they would simply refuse. I know this because i have a 10 year greyhound that i breed myself to race and she did not want to. She has not been killed or shipped off to a re-homing centre. She has a very happy life and is treat better me. Also the retired greyhound trust (charity) run an amazing re-homing scheme. They have helped to find loving homes for over 3000 retired greyhound of all ages this year alone.
pollypenny wrote:Your on cloud cuckoo land, racing dogs of all varieties has been around since god knows when and will always be, it's been a great night out for families, stag and hen nights and committed punters and hopefully this will stay so but I suspect money will talk again.
I am delighted this has closed. The very nature of Greyhound racing promotes Greyhound abuse. Thousands are needlessly euthanized if they don't make it to the track, or due to minor injuries. Then there are the 'so called' lucky ones who make the track, have a risk filled life of racing who then go on to face their next hurdle once this career is over. As young as age 3 (or younger if injured or not fast enough) they will be abandoned to already overfilled rescue centres, whose job is to find them a home. There are many others who don't even get this option and are killed in barbaric ways by their trainers. The whole vicious cycle can only be stopped by recognising that Greyhound racing has no place in a civilised society where we are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers. It serves only to satisfy the greed of the trainers, bookmakers, race track owners and the misguided public who come to watch and bet on them, often oblivious to the abuse and neglect that goes on behind the scenes.
You can't just keep on building houses, seems daft to me but then again i am not in that business. Losing the Cheetahs was the start of the rot.
Keep,dog racing, keep the karting, and try to get speedway back.
There is the minority of bad people in all walks of life including greyhound racing but i am outraged with your statement. This is our sport and we love greyhound racing but most of all we love our Greyhounds.
The culling of 1,000's of healthy puppies that fail to chase. The destruction of 1,000's of healthy juvenile dogs that are too slow and dont make the grade. The destruction of 100's of dogs that sustain treatable but 'career ending' injuries on the dangerously configured tracks and the destruction of 1,000's of healthy 2-4 year old greyhounds because 'no retirement home can be found'.
All these practices are condoned and effectively promoted by the industry in order to protect profits. At least 10,000 greyhounds bred for British racing go 'unaccounted' for annually - presumed killed.
Greyhound racing is not recognised as a sport by the EU - the British Government or the Government's official sports regulators - Sport England. It is purely and simply a self regulating gambling industry that is responsible for the uncontrolled breeding and deaths of thousands of greyhounds every year.
This industrialised cruelty is no way to treat a dog.
www.greytexploitatio
ns.com
flopsy3
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10:17am Sat 24 Nov 12
I have seen more than enough dead discarded greyhounds in very large numbers abandoned by their 'loving' trainers. Obviously this doesnt seem to matter to the majority so long as hen and stag parties have a good night out. Beyond belief.
faatmaan
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11:12am Sat 24 Nov 12
dant40
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4:35pm Sat 24 Nov 12
dant40
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4:35pm Sat 24 Nov 12
KennethN
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7:58pm Sat 24 Nov 12
mailisrubbish
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8:49pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Oxford's a dump and the stadium one of the worst parts. Time for it to go and good riddance.
Greytexploitations
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11:36pm Sat 24 Nov 12
KennethN wrote:Greyhound racing is not recognised as a sport by the EU - the British Government or the Government's official sports regulators - Sport England. It is purely and simply a self regulating gambling industry that is responsible for the uncontrolled breeding and deaths of thousands of greyhounds every year.
The issue here has nothing to do with cruelty to greyhounds or affordable housing in Oxford. It is about property speculators targeting fully-functional and well-maintained sporting facilities, with the profit-driven objective of converting them into brownfield development sites. Most councils would give their eye teeth for such a stadium, so let's hope OCC sees sense, and ensures the site is retained and maintained for its intended purpose - sports not housing. If the current management feels unable to operate it successfully, then it should be valued and sold for what it is - a loss making concern, not prime development land.
KennethN
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12:38pm Sun 25 Nov 12
Greytexploitations wrote:Greytexploitations wrote:
KennethN wrote: The issue here has nothing to do with cruelty to greyhounds or affordable housing in Oxford. It is about property speculators targeting fully-functional and well-maintained sporting facilities, with the profit-driven objective of converting them into brownfield development sites. Most councils would give their eye teeth for such a stadium, so let's hope OCC sees sense, and ensures the site is retained and maintained for its intended purpose - sports not housing. If the current management feels unable to operate it successfully, then it should be valued and sold for what it is - a loss making concern, not prime development land.Greyhound racing is not recognised as a sport by the EU - the British Government or the Government's official sports regulators - Sport England. It is purely and simply a self regulating gambling industry that is responsible for the uncontrolled breeding and deaths of thousands of greyhounds every year.
Greyhound racing is not recognised as a sport by the EU - the British Government or the Government's official sports regulators - Sport England. It is purely and simply a self regulating gambling industry that is responsible for the uncontrolled breeding and deaths of thousands of greyhounds every year.
This misses the point. The stadium is also a venue for go-karts and other motor sports, and it used to be for speedway. In addition, it once housed a health club (and still might do, for all I know). The issue is about a venue, not about the possible evils of greyhound racing. The title of the article is a little unfortunate, in that respect.
SteveOX4
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4:13pm Sun 25 Nov 12
Myron Blatz
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7:25pm Sun 25 Nov 12
RegisteringSucks
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12:10am Mon 26 Nov 12
BigAlBiker wrote:Sorry but dog racing is toast, and RIGHTLY SO! Good riddance to animal cruelty. NEXT
pollypenny wrote:Your on cloud cuckoo land, racing dogs of all varieties has been around since god knows when and will always be, it's been a great night out for families, stag and hen nights and committed punters and hopefully this will stay so but I suspect money will talk again.
I am delighted this has closed. The very nature of Greyhound racing promotes Greyhound abuse. Thousands are needlessly euthanized if they don't make it to the track, or due to minor injuries. Then there are the 'so called' lucky ones who make the track, have a risk filled life of racing who then go on to face their next hurdle once this career is over. As young as age 3 (or younger if injured or not fast enough) they will be abandoned to already overfilled rescue centres, whose job is to find them a home. There are many others who don't even get this option and are killed in barbaric ways by their trainers. The whole vicious cycle can only be stopped by recognising that Greyhound racing has no place in a civilised society where we are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers. It serves only to satisfy the greed of the trainers, bookmakers, race track owners and the misguided public who come to watch and bet on them, often oblivious to the abuse and neglect that goes on behind the scenes.
You can't just keep on building houses, seems daft to me but then again i am not in that business. Losing the Cheetahs was the start of the rot.
Keep,dog racing, keep the karting, and try to get speedway back.
RegisteringSucks
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12:11am Mon 26 Nov 12
Greyhound10 wrote:No, you love RACING your greyhounds, for money. Decent folk would not put their animals in harms way for profit nor entertainment. Good riddance to the Oxford track..NEXT!
BigAlBiker wrote:Sorry Polly but you are so so very wrong. I live in the north east on England and i am totally gutted by this news. Please dont paint this picture you dont no the facts. True greyhound people are great people who love and cherish there dogs. They are so well looked after and the greyhounds actually love to run. If they did not want to run they would simply refuse. I know this because i have a 10 year greyhound that i breed myself to race and she did not want to. She has not been killed or shipped off to a re-homing centre. She has a very happy life and is treat better me. Also the retired greyhound trust (charity) run an amazing re-homing scheme. They have helped to find loving homes for over 3000 retired greyhound of all ages this year alone.
pollypenny wrote:Your on cloud cuckoo land, racing dogs of all varieties has been around since god knows when and will always be, it's been a great night out for families, stag and hen nights and committed punters and hopefully this will stay so but I suspect money will talk again.
I am delighted this has closed. The very nature of Greyhound racing promotes Greyhound abuse. Thousands are needlessly euthanized if they don't make it to the track, or due to minor injuries. Then there are the 'so called' lucky ones who make the track, have a risk filled life of racing who then go on to face their next hurdle once this career is over. As young as age 3 (or younger if injured or not fast enough) they will be abandoned to already overfilled rescue centres, whose job is to find them a home. There are many others who don't even get this option and are killed in barbaric ways by their trainers. The whole vicious cycle can only be stopped by recognising that Greyhound racing has no place in a civilised society where we are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers. It serves only to satisfy the greed of the trainers, bookmakers, race track owners and the misguided public who come to watch and bet on them, often oblivious to the abuse and neglect that goes on behind the scenes.
You can't just keep on building houses, seems daft to me but then again i am not in that business. Losing the Cheetahs was the start of the rot.
Keep,dog racing, keep the karting, and try to get speedway back.
There is the minority of bad people in all walks of life including greyhound racing but i am outraged with your statement. This is our sport and we love greyhound racing but most of all we love our Greyhounds.
Pavinder Msvarensy
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2:45pm Mon 26 Nov 12
RoggieB
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4:35pm Mon 26 Nov 12
mailisrubbish wrote:I'm guessing you've never troubled the membership secretary of MENSA.
Dogs are just dogs. We can use them howsoever we want and eat them too .
Oxford's a dump and the stadium one of the worst parts. Time for it to go and good riddance.
If you like eating dog so much, why not emigrate to China - you'd be in your element - and nobody here would miss you.
RoggieB
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4:45pm Mon 26 Nov 12
Pavinder Msvarensy wrote:Closure can't come soon enough.
It is very worrying how illeducated people such as the above, peddle lies as the truth, and want to destroy peoples livlihoods, entertainment, and have good dogs killed, just to provide themselves with some justification for being on this planet. I take all your comments with a pinch of salt, and console myself with the fact that you will all end up with your leader Mr Broughton sooner or later.
As for being "illeducated", maybe you should invest in a spell-checker. Might I suggest having your blinkers surgically removed - the NHS can do marvellous things these days.
But your comments are breathtaking in their hypocrisy. Could it be the same Pavinder, who posted on the Oxford Mail earlier today to kill all their dogs in spite, rather than trying to rehome them?
pollypenny
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8:18pm Mon 26 Nov 12
RoggieB wrote:Well said RoggieB. And yes it was indeed the same Pavinder who threatened to kill all his dogs out of spite. What a truly delightful individual he is!
Pavinder Msvarensy wrote:Closure can't come soon enough.
It is very worrying how illeducated people such as the above, peddle lies as the truth, and want to destroy peoples livlihoods, entertainment, and have good dogs killed, just to provide themselves with some justification for being on this planet. I take all your comments with a pinch of salt, and console myself with the fact that you will all end up with your leader Mr Broughton sooner or later.
As for being "illeducated", maybe you should invest in a spell-checker. Might I suggest having your blinkers surgically removed - the NHS can do marvellous things these days.
But your comments are breathtaking in their hypocrisy. Could it be the same Pavinder, who posted on the Oxford Mail earlier today to kill all their dogs in spite, rather than trying to rehome them?
He has certainly added to the evidence that Greyhound trainers are not very nice people, to put it mildly.
tell98
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8:44pm Mon 26 Nov 12
had the speedway been running (more use of the venue) it would still be open to this day & onward !!!
well done GRA, anouther british sporting area gone !!!!!!!
RickSteele
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10:52pm Tue 27 Nov 12
“Everybody affected here will have to find new jobs, it’s a sad, sad day.”
Cry me a river Mr. Baiden
For your next job try for something that actually helps advance society rather than degrading it.
Perhaps then the powers-that-be will show you a little more love.
Greyhound10
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7:15pm Wed 28 Nov 12
to ny w
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10:47am Fri 30 Nov 12
to ny w wrote:I don't understand why nobody has commented on this.
Off course gambles killed Oxford?
Sad for loss of the track for everybody concerned, but not surprised as losing 500k p a Friday BAGS contract broke the straw.
If BAGS were making money with off course bookies doing well at Oxford then Oxford would have survived. The fact of the matter is economics prevails. If Oxford was good business for the national bookies, then BAGS would have bent over backwards to keep it going.
3 years ago I was refused a 40 quid bet on my dog in a Tote betting shop in Oxford and was offered 10 quid maximum!! Why? Well they told me that they have been stung many many times by off course gambles they had to limit bets and I am sure they have said enough is enough, The numbers do not work and the golden goose has died.
If BAGS, bookmakers afternoon greyhound service, had not cancelled the Friday fixture for 2013 onwards, Oxford would have stayed open in the short term.
You have to ask why it was cancelled. If the bookies were making serious money instead of being stung on a regular basis, we wouldn't be mourning or commenting on its closure.
The Golden Goose was bled to death and those that did the bleeding will be worse off in the long term as the goose is dying.
Mistywisty
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12:59pm Fri 30 Nov 12
I think it was always planned that eventuallythe track would be closed down and houses built there. The council have obviously received some backhander for this, but suprise, suprise, they ar still preaching they have no money!
I agree that there is a lack of affordable housing in Oxford, its a shame that the houses that will be built on the site will more than likely be hugely over priced, poorly built new builds that the average first time buyer/family can raise a mortgage for.
Oxford really doesnt have much going for it anymore.
Peter1111111
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7:48pm Sun 9 Dec 12
mdh1664 wrote:I'm against more housing in Britain full stop, soon we won't be able to feed ourselves with the wave upon wave of ppl expecting to be housed on these shores.
this is a crafty plan by the developers (who own the gra).
run it down, come out with loss making statements.
then the planning applications for housing go in !
IT STINKS !
However the track closing is good day for greyhounds, less cruel callous activity and animal exploitation.
Could not the site be used to replenish a least a small part of the forest land that has been depleted over the centuries in Britain or be used as an animal sanctuary or for some other use that is health promoting.
mrsutton says...
6:32pm Fri 23 Nov 12
And they wonder why people are going to other towns to shop and for entertainment for the family's . Absolute joke .